Dogs everywhere

ViceVersa

GrannyGravy13

ViceVersa I come across numerous entitled dog owners, who take great pleasure in assuring me that their dog is non-allergic

Usually the same owners who call them fur babies and speak to them as if they are toddlers…

I can assure you I am none of those things. We're not all like that. Some of us are very responsible dog owners, with well trained dogs. Sadly, it's those who are not who cause the problems.

I do know owners like yourself who are responsible and respectful of others.

Unfortunately bad owners are like bad news, travels faster and wider…

I have been to two meetings lately and the conversation has morphed into dogs. Whether they had had a good Christmas ! What presents they had had ! God it was boring.
One woman had three babies !!!

GrannyGravy13

ViceVersa I come across numerous entitled dog owners, who take great pleasure in assuring me that their dog is non-allergic

Usually the same owners who call them fur babies and speak to them as if they are toddlers…

I can assure you I am none of those things. We're not all like that. Some of us are very responsible dog owners, with well trained dogs. Sadly, it's those who are not who cause the problems.

ViceVersa I come across numerous entitled dog owners, who take great pleasure in assuring me that their dog is non-allergic

Usually the same owners who call them fur babies and speak to them as if they are toddlers…

I love dogs and don’t understand people who moan about them.

Oh dear. I like some dogs, love some dogs, dislike some dogs, fear some dogs.

I do understand why some people have reservations about them.
They might be "man's best friend" (or woman's) but they are dogs, not people and should know their place. Unfortunately many owners have not trained them properly. It's not the dog's fault.

so I guess you just have to limit where you want to go.
I'm glad you realise that, if you have your dog with you, you just have to limit where you want to go.

Oh - did you mean everyone else?
Surely not, that would be so entitled.

Obviously it's some owners who need training.

GrannyGravy13

ViceVersa

And people don't? Obviously never sat on a train or bus next to someone with terrible BO then...

Body odour from a human being has not put me in hospital, ever.

Dogs odour, fur, saliva have had me hospitalised on too many occasions to keep track of!

I actually love dogs, we always had a family pet and what I suppose would be classed as a guard dog (hospitality industry)

Over the years my allergy to them has increased, I have to avoid dogs to avoid the blue lights to A & E.

What has happened to tolerance, when did people become so entitled that they could not care less about others?

With all due respect, there's a big difference between someone being allergic to dogs and someone simply disliking the smell of them. I fail to see how pointing that out is being 'entitled'.

GG13 I too am allergic to dogs and cats. In my teens and twenties was often rushed to hospital after being near a dog.
I do really like dogs and am fond of the ones I meet on my walks. I think I may be less allergic now as I've been in cafes where there were dogs and no problem.
There must be many people who have allergies to dogs so I really think they should not be in restaurants and shops. How did people manage before dogs were allowed everywhere?

Stansgran

People who have dogs tend to be used to their smell and don’t realise it can make someone else gag.

True dat.

When I bought my starter house = equalled one of the things the vendors had stolen was a bedroom carpet (stolen because it was part of what was agreed as mine and coming with the house). Cue for my parents were replacing one of theirs and I "made do and mended" with their old carpet in that room and I scrubbed and scrubbed that carpet - but I could not get the doggie smell out of it that their dog had left there (even though she was looked after/trained properly - nevertheless that doggie smell had happened anyway). I don't think my parents had realised themselves about that...

ViceVersa

And people don't? Obviously never sat on a train or bus next to someone with terrible BO then...

Body odour from a human being has not put me in hospital, ever.

Dogs odour, fur, saliva have had me hospitalised on too many occasions to keep track of!

I actually love dogs, we always had a family pet and what I suppose would be classed as a guard dog (hospitality industry)

Over the years my allergy to them has increased, I have to avoid dogs to avoid the blue lights to A & E.

What has happened to tolerance, when did people become so entitled that they could not care less about others?

So dogs will smell - of dog- usually. Though some smell of dog and perfume 😱

So a room with lots of dogs in it will smell of dog obviously. That’s why it was just silly to say it didn’t.

Astitchintime

I agree…..with the exception of therapy dogs of course!
But why is it, people will stop and chat in the pavement's/footpaths to other dog owners, taking up all the space and expect other pedestrians to struggle to get past without tripping over bloody dogs???? And don’t get me started on those wretched extendable dog leads!

yep....if someone is blocking the pavement with dogs I do the same as if they're blocking the pavement in any other way basically (apart from the vehicles on pavements thing that happens a lot here too) and just come to an abrupt halt where I need to walk past them on the pavement and look at them expectantly if the dog is still blocking the way - ie "I'm waiting for you to move and stop obstructing the pavement" attitude.

Personally - I don't like dogs that much and have come to be more anti them since moving to an area where there are so many of them and they are allowed to bark in a lot of gardens. So yep....hence the "I'm politely waiting for you to stop obstructing our pavement with your dog".

Oh yes people smell too. I’ve often had to move away😬

I think probably every living thing smells, don’t you?

And people don't? Obviously never sat on a train or bus next to someone with terrible BO then...

That’s why dogs sniff each other. Because they smell 😬

It’s a bit silly to say they don’t.

People who have dogs tend to be used to their smell and don’t realise it can make someone else gag.

I think the first sentence gives this whole issue away. You have to love what I love or I will not even try to understand you but try to persuade you that dogs are wonderful and everyone should love them.

I can' think of any other animal domestic or otherwise that is used in this way.

“You just have to limit where you go….”

I guess that was meant to aggravate the situation 🤔

I love dogs and don’t understand people
who moan about them. Went to a very posh hotel last summer which was dog-friendly (we took ours) and there was absolutely no smell from the dogs. You can’t take them into food shops and a lot of restaurants only allow dogs in certain areas.
It’s up to the owners to control them and where I live, people are very responsible.
Even the centuries-old cathedral allows dogs now. There’s one pub that allows
dogs and not children! They are absolutely not a substitute for children - look at the amount of families who have dogs. We are a dog-loving nation and businesses have recognised this as allowing dogs increases custom.
It ain’t going to change so I guess you just have to limit where you want to go. Or
learn to like dogs - the most wonderful creatures who provide love and companionship to millions of people.

I am a dog lover and we have a lovely rescue dog but I do agree that they are getting in too many places now . Our dog is quite large - about the size of a labrador - so we dont take her everywhere we go . Shes a dog for heavens sake ! She gets exercised every day she doesnt need to be with us all the time !,It's annoying when people treat dogs like they're human !

Put simply, cats are better.

Since Covid, I hardly meet anyone without a dog on my walks around my home. The local café stinks of wet dog in damp weather; why should the dogless have to put up with it?
A dear friend won't visit unless she can bring her dog. It's not a bad little thing but it's like a toddler, seeming to need constant attention. Toddlers grow up, which is lovely and fascinating. Dogs don't.

Of course there must be choice. I adore dogs and make a nuisance of myself patting other peoples' dogs. Even the sight of most dogs make me smile.
Not everyone likes dogs however and some people fear them. It is crucial that all dog owners respect this.
People need spaces and dogs need spaces to "be a dog" and run and run;they need exercise to thrive.
A local park in the UK that I frequented with my dog before I moved abroad had two halves divided by a bridge. one half dogs allowed off the lead; the other half dogs strictly to be on the lead on pain of fines.
Thats the way to do it.......

M0nica

Me thinks the lady do protest too much.

I never mentioned children, I am not sure where that came from.

If you're talking about me, it was Oreo who mentioned children in her response.

OP here - sorry if I brought up a subject that had been on here before. I only just joined!
I must reiterate, I don't hate dogs. I have been a loving dog owner in the past. I am just getting peed off with dogs in hotels, shops and restaurants. Some of them do smell bad and some of them whimper and bark at other dogs, some are allowed to sit on seats and lick the tables.
I've just been to town on a wet and stormy day and have seen a few dogs shaking water, dander and fur off inside shops. It's definitely an "owner" problem.
I find it rather nice to see that others on the thread also like dogs but seem to get my point .... therefore I might not be unreasonable.
There are many, many people who are lovely responsible owners so it's not having a dig at dog owners.
Thanks for a nice discussion so far.

Me thinks the lady do protest too much.

I never mentioned children, I am not sure where that came from.