Dogs everywhere

People who have dogs tend to be used to their smell and don’t realise it can make someone else gag.

That’s why dogs sniff each other. Because they smell 😬

It’s a bit silly to say they don’t.

And people don't? Obviously never sat on a train or bus next to someone with terrible BO then...

Oh yes people smell too. I’ve often had to move away😬

I think probably every living thing smells, don’t you?

Astitchintime

I agree…..with the exception of therapy dogs of course!
But why is it, people will stop and chat in the pavement's/footpaths to other dog owners, taking up all the space and expect other pedestrians to struggle to get past without tripping over bloody dogs???? And don’t get me started on those wretched extendable dog leads!

yep....if someone is blocking the pavement with dogs I do the same as if they're blocking the pavement in any other way basically (apart from the vehicles on pavements thing that happens a lot here too) and just come to an abrupt halt where I need to walk past them on the pavement and look at them expectantly if the dog is still blocking the way - ie "I'm waiting for you to move and stop obstructing the pavement" attitude.

Personally - I don't like dogs that much and have come to be more anti them since moving to an area where there are so many of them and they are allowed to bark in a lot of gardens. So yep....hence the "I'm politely waiting for you to stop obstructing our pavement with your dog".

So dogs will smell - of dog- usually. Though some smell of dog and perfume 😱

So a room with lots of dogs in it will smell of dog obviously. That’s why it was just silly to say it didn’t.

ViceVersa

And people don't? Obviously never sat on a train or bus next to someone with terrible BO then...

Body odour from a human being has not put me in hospital, ever.

Dogs odour, fur, saliva have had me hospitalised on too many occasions to keep track of!

I actually love dogs, we always had a family pet and what I suppose would be classed as a guard dog (hospitality industry)

Over the years my allergy to them has increased, I have to avoid dogs to avoid the blue lights to A & E.

What has happened to tolerance, when did people become so entitled that they could not care less about others?

Stansgran

People who have dogs tend to be used to their smell and don’t realise it can make someone else gag.

True dat.

When I bought my starter house = equalled one of the things the vendors had stolen was a bedroom carpet (stolen because it was part of what was agreed as mine and coming with the house). Cue for my parents were replacing one of theirs and I "made do and mended" with their old carpet in that room and I scrubbed and scrubbed that carpet - but I could not get the doggie smell out of it that their dog had left there (even though she was looked after/trained properly - nevertheless that doggie smell had happened anyway). I don't think my parents had realised themselves about that...

GG13 I too am allergic to dogs and cats. In my teens and twenties was often rushed to hospital after being near a dog.
I do really like dogs and am fond of the ones I meet on my walks. I think I may be less allergic now as I've been in cafes where there were dogs and no problem.
There must be many people who have allergies to dogs so I really think they should not be in restaurants and shops. How did people manage before dogs were allowed everywhere?

GrannyGravy13

ViceVersa

And people don't? Obviously never sat on a train or bus next to someone with terrible BO then...

Body odour from a human being has not put me in hospital, ever.

Dogs odour, fur, saliva have had me hospitalised on too many occasions to keep track of!

I actually love dogs, we always had a family pet and what I suppose would be classed as a guard dog (hospitality industry)

Over the years my allergy to them has increased, I have to avoid dogs to avoid the blue lights to A & E.

What has happened to tolerance, when did people become so entitled that they could not care less about others?

With all due respect, there's a big difference between someone being allergic to dogs and someone simply disliking the smell of them. I fail to see how pointing that out is being 'entitled'.

I love dogs and don’t understand people who moan about them.

Oh dear. I like some dogs, love some dogs, dislike some dogs, fear some dogs.

I do understand why some people have reservations about them.
They might be "man's best friend" (or woman's) but they are dogs, not people and should know their place. Unfortunately many owners have not trained them properly. It's not the dog's fault.

so I guess you just have to limit where you want to go.
I'm glad you realise that, if you have your dog with you, you just have to limit where you want to go.

Oh - did you mean everyone else?
Surely not, that would be so entitled.

Obviously it's some owners who need training.

ViceVersa I come across numerous entitled dog owners, who take great pleasure in assuring me that their dog is non-allergic

Usually the same owners who call them fur babies and speak to them as if they are toddlers…

GrannyGravy13

ViceVersa I come across numerous entitled dog owners, who take great pleasure in assuring me that their dog is non-allergic

Usually the same owners who call them fur babies and speak to them as if they are toddlers…

I can assure you I am none of those things. We're not all like that. Some of us are very responsible dog owners, with well trained dogs. Sadly, it's those who are not who cause the problems.

I have been to two meetings lately and the conversation has morphed into dogs. Whether they had had a good Christmas ! What presents they had had ! God it was boring.
One woman had three babies !!!

ViceVersa

GrannyGravy13

ViceVersa I come across numerous entitled dog owners, who take great pleasure in assuring me that their dog is non-allergic

Usually the same owners who call them fur babies and speak to them as if they are toddlers…

I can assure you I am none of those things. We're not all like that. Some of us are very responsible dog owners, with well trained dogs. Sadly, it's those who are not who cause the problems.

I do know owners like yourself who are responsible and respectful of others.

Unfortunately bad owners are like bad news, travels faster and wider…

The human race would survive without dogs, it will not survive without children. Worth considering by those who prefer dogs to children especially those they label 'feral', a word that should never be applied to a child, they're human not animals.
I have had a dog in the past and cats. One of my sons developed a severe allergy to both involving (like GrannyGravy) blue light life-saving trips to A&E. Apparently he, and presumably GG13, should just put up with limiting where they can go because dog owners think their dogs take precedence.

If you - or someone you know - has an allergy to dogs, what do you do if you happen to go out and encounter someone with an assistance dog, given that there is a legal requirement for those dogs to be allowed access to almost every facility from hospitals and business to shops and cafes?

Our daughter has a severe allergy to dogs and she loves dogs. Her in-laws used to have one and when DD visited she would be in am awful state with swollen, streaming eyes, sneezing etc. Consequently she couldn't visit often as MIL thought she was making it up. As for assistance dogs she has to avoid them as best she can.

It used to be easy to give precedence to people with assistance dogs and just move away, wait or whatever because you could be sensitive to their need and there were very occasions when that happened and usually there was mutual understanding and tolerance.

I was on a train once when a couple got on with a dog in harness. The woman was obviously partially sighted or maybe blind.

I got up from my seat fairly hurriedly and moved down the train but still started coughing and sneezing. The nan followed me and said “Are you allergic to dogs?” and I grinned in between achoo,achoo and said “yes, afraid so”.
“Well move carriages” he said and I replied “No, I’m getting out at the next stop”.

That’s all it takes. A bit of tolerance on one side, consideration on the other.

Not “don’t go on trains then if you can’t be with dogs”

We’ll move carriages.

Totally messed up that story by omitting an apostrophe 😬

ViceVersa

If you - or someone you know - has an allergy to dogs, what do you do if you happen to go out and encounter someone with an assistance dog, given that there is a legal requirement for those dogs to be allowed access to almost every facility from hospitals and business to shops and cafes?

I carry strong antihistamines always, which I take immediately.

I then explain my allergies and ask to be moved if in a medical setting.

In a cafe or restaurant I ask to be moved or leave explaining why.

Very seldom do I use public transport. I always take antihistamines before going on mainline trains, do not use the underground or buses.

Thank you for that explanation. I wasn't looking for an argument, by the way. I was genuinely interested in how people cope, especially as I have a visually impaired friend who has just got her first guide dog.

Lathyrus3

We’ll move carriages.

Totally messed up that story by omitting an apostrophe 😬

How strange, I actually read your original post as 'we'll' not well. I suppose I got the sense they were trying to be considerate, as were you.

I have a dog and am a dog lover and I completely agree with this post. I remember the campaign back in the seventies to keep dogs out of shops that sold food and cafés and restaurants, except for guide dogs, of course. It would have been unthinkable for dogs to go into clothes shops. I avoid “dog-friendly” cafés where possible. One time l was with a friend and we were in a queue at a café when a man with a young, boisterous and unruly husky type of dog was in front of us. It had already messed around with other dogs in there then turned round to greet me by jumping up at me and putting its paws on my shoulders, which I did not appreciate. My friend and I left at this point. I also think dogs are happier at home or on ordinary walks rather than being dragged around shops and cafés. If they are not capable of being left on their own for a couple of hours, the owners have not trained them properly.

I am terrified of dogs and my life has been really restricted in recent years by the influx of dogs in shops, cafés and pubs. It's no good saying don't go to places that allow dogs because it is virtually impossible to find somewhere that is dog free. And it is increasingly difficult to find holiday cottages that are dog free.