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Thinking of selling due to heat

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Fallingstar Wed 08-Jul-26 13:37:45

Now I know this might sound a tad dramatic but here in London high temps are becoming the norm over the past few years. We live in a house that would need a lot spending on it to install AC and we still wouldn’t be able to go out during the day due to the heat. I am a full time carer for my husband and am finding the continued extreme heat depressing and exhausting. Am therefore wondering if we should move back to North Lancashire where we are from originally and where temps have been much lower and bearable. The only difficulty is that we would not be near our daughters and with one DD having a health crisis right now it has been good to be nearby.
But can think of no easy solution to this. ATM we are sitting in a house where the curtains are closed all day and we can’t go out because temps are already over 30 degrees.

butterandjam Thu 09-Jul-26 17:16:29

For almost 20 years, we had two sets of "summer neighbours" who came to cool fresh coastal West of Scotland for three months every summer. One pair live in Georgia USA, the other s in Jerusalem, and they hated the summer heat at home.

They were all wealthy retired professionals, rich enough to buy second homes which lay empty for 9 months of the year. They did this for many years, made many local friends and just slotted back in to take an active part in (Scottish) local life. For us permanent residents, their arrival/ departure marked the start and end of summer ( like swallows).

A more economical version would be to stay in a comfortable hotel or guest house for a month or so.

Back in the 70's my MIL used to spend the 6 coldest weeks of winter in a hotel in Spain on some very cheap deal.

Nannan2 Thu 09-Jul-26 17:13:35

Up north lancs has also been up to the 30's so no difference really....🥵

HelterSkelter1 Thu 09-Jul-26 17:12:10

As always such good advice Madeleine which makes me think as well.
Somethimg I have just done to add to the tips. DH has a bath board across the bath..unused by him now... and I sat on it and put a cheap rectangular washing up bowl filled with cold water in the bath and sat with my feet in the bowl for 10 minute. Very cooling. I have left the water in and will do it again. The water eventually will go on the plants. I may put ice cubes in next time.

Wyllow3 Thu 09-Jul-26 17:09:02

Stay, stay, close to family, and the familiar, there are some great suggestions here and tbh (S Yorks) yes its better but not hugely.

Neither are the winters like you seem to fear as climate change means warmer winters.

You'd actually have to move up close to the Scottish Borders and due north to make a real difference and the winters there ARE problematic snow slip getting about, getting help when needed.....

flowers flowers

Juicylucy Thu 09-Jul-26 17:04:05

Wouldn’t it be best for you to stay closer to your DD for both of your health needs in the future.

madeleine45 Thu 09-Jul-26 16:44:14

I would suggest looking at two separate areas. So the practical things that might improve life a little at the moment, and then when you are having a cooler time and less stress my usual advice about the two lists pro's and con's regarding moving and the options you might have.

I have moved quite a lot in my life including living in Syria and Portugal and spending time in Sweden. So the very basic day to day stuff. Loose cotton or silk clothing is obvious , but I would also include for you no bra , whilst at home, unless you feel uncomfortable without it. Anything restricting the movement of the cooler air. Then if you have old hot waterbottle, fill with cold water and a little ice and at night before you go to bed run it over the sheets and pillows to give you a cool start , or if not , have you one of those little freezer blocks that go in lunch boxes? Wrap in a towel and use in the same way. In the day if you are sitting, you can put your bare feet on them, cooling and if you have a couple of them you can rotate them and refreeze them. If you have to go out shopping yourself, then besides going as early as you can manage, if you have a bottle of water that you have chilled in your fridge, then get a flannel and wet it with cold water, wring it out a little and then put into a plastic bag and put next to the water bottle. That way you have cool water to drink, and it keeps the flannel cool, which you can use to cool your face and hands and wrists. At home if you also in the morning wet your hair comb it slightly and leave it to dry, and keep some cold water in a handbasin , where you can put your hands in and let them get very cold , as and when you need to.

It really does work to keep windows and curtains shut all day, even though you dont always feel it is so. If you have wide windowledges then put a bowl of cold water on them , or if you have a fan going , put a bowl where the air will go across it and it helps to cool down. Might you consider shutters on the windows outside as a simpler possibility, to help with the heat.? I expect you have thought of most of these things and I am not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs! Have you found the coolest place in your house. One place I lived in I used to take a chair into the hall especially in the middle of the day as it was the coolest place there, and in another one I used to choose the kitchen with cool tiles and a blind to pull down to keep the sun out. You might also look at the cost of an outside blind/sunshade. If you had a roller style that you actually pulled outwards like the shop awnings, then it would not be too difficult to pull out and a thickish one will help to keep the sun off.Pull it out first thing in the morning and it will be a help all day.

When it is so hot , as they say, all bets are off! Of course I let people know, but I dont go to group meetings held in hot rooms, or places, and accept that food will be whatever I feel like eating, and least effort. Keeping off alcohol , which I think is not cooling , so with that and less food hope to have lost a bit of weight! Keep the energy for the vital or important things

Looking at the more longterm situation, I think my old way of doing things like the old game of consequences, where every time you think of something good or bad, you write them on the appropriate list and then fold them over, and add more as you think of them . Then when some time has elapsed and you are in a cooler climate and feeling more relaxed, you open your lists. Then you can see patterns in your ideas and thoughts and you might find you are surprised at some of the things you read.

So you will be looking at staying near family and all your friends and contacts you have now, and the idea that you might move back up to Lancashire. The hassle and cost of moving might be compared to the cost of perhaps making at least the ground floor of your house a/c and also if you had really good double glazing with wide gaps between the glass, that would keep down noise and be warmer in the winter too. When I was in Sweden they had both triple glaze and double glaze with a wide gap between the glass. Certainly worth having and less noise is also very good. That combined with the awning idea might make a bid difference.

I dont think "going back" to somewhere works very well. Things change over the years. It is worth going to an area you like, but then you need to look at all the ups and downs there too. One thing about London is there is good transport one way and another, and you would need to think about how you would get about, driving or cost of taxis etc. If leaving London is the main thing, might you consider somewhere further out but not so far from your family. ?

When I made my last move, I thought of all the rather negative and pessimistic things, such as what if I could no longer drive, walk upstairs etc etc, and then I was able to see what was important to have available, such as a railway station, access to a hospital etc etc. So far , fingers crossed I am still driving but very glad that I now have a ground floor flat. Perhaps when you have read lots of posts , and picked up ideas that might be useful to you, you could then try and make a rough idea of the various costs, so that you can compare them as you may find the various possibilities have differing costs. Then you might speak to your family when you have got that far and they may have other suggestions that you havent thought of. Ah well I have gone on long enough! Time for a cool water and flannel. Hope you find the best solution possible. Best wishes

undines Thu 09-Jul-26 16:14:59

Our mobile aircon was £170 and has made all the difference in the bedroom. Moving doesn't sound like a practical solution, there are ways round this :-)

Rocketstop2 Thu 09-Jul-26 16:02:30

Iam64

I’m north west. My kitchen has huge glass doors snd velux windows. The extension was done 12 years ago. This is the first summer when the heat inside reached 35. I’ve two fans and cool
Mats for the dogs
I’ve got quotes coming for an awning of some kind to give shade where the patio doors are
I sympathise Falling Star, many of us are in the elderly at risk category / I can no
Longer function in high temps

Hi
Just a note for you about awning/canopy , see if they have something that has sides to it. We have one that comes out over the patio doors, and while it does help when the sun is overhead, as it moves round it just gets in at the sides and is just as hot then, so maybe consider side screens to it if possible ?

Ziplok Thu 09-Jul-26 15:33:35

It sounds very difficult for you Fallingstar and I do sympathise. However, the upheaval involved in moving, plus moving away from family and friends might actually outweigh any benefits. As others suggest, it might well prove to be less expensive to have air conditioning installed in your existing home? My brother just has and loves it, and it’s something we are considering.
I live in the north of England, and to be honest, the temperatures this week and during the last two heatwaves have been between 30 and 35 degrees by mid afternoon, so equally as limiting.
The problem with our houses is that they have mostly been designed to keep heat in rather than out, so as temps climb outside, they do inside, too.

HelterSkelter1 Thu 09-Jul-26 15:20:58

Our air con unit has a flexible large tube to vent through a fixture in our sash window. Its quite a neat fitting.

Dynawritecat Thu 09-Jul-26 15:17:40

Portable air con units need a large flexible tube to go through an exterior wall to expel the heat. I have one. The kind that don't have a tube simply expel the hot air to a different part of the room. A bit chocolate fireguard.

HelterSkelter1 Thu 09-Jul-26 15:10:57

Fallingstar I know we are in a similar caring situation and it was such a coincidence to read your post when I am having a very down day as well today. In fact p****d off to be honest.

We live west of London. The temp is 34 deg. DH is bedbound. We are living like cave people with closed windows and curtains. Incredibly hot last night. DHs bedroom was 29 at 11 pm. And I read the hot weather will continue for days. We have a portable air con unit in my bedroom, but with the necessity of being close to a window to vent, it cant go in DHs room. But he wouldnt like the noise anyway. He has a large fan but it does just move the air about.

So I have been thinking this morning where should we move to. But DHs health is so poor that the move will probably be just for me.

So am down in the dumps. The future with this sudden great heat this year seems very uncertain. I am trying all methods of keeping the temp down, but the upstairs gets so hot by the end of the day.

I do sympathise. Being close to DD must be important for you. Moving may be a mistake. At the moment everywhere seems hot.. Air con taxis to cooler spots would help for a morning or afternoon as a PP suggested. Chin up.

Pinkhousegirl Thu 09-Jul-26 14:59:25

where I live!

Warbler Thu 09-Jul-26 14:57:31

I have a brilliant idea to consider maybe for next year. Someone, somewhere cooler (Wales is! I lived there and never suffered with heat exhaustion) would just love to swap your house in London for a couple of months during the summer. I've done a house swap on several occasions, and it was incredibly successful. Of course, you do have to have the sort of creative mind to accept it and there are lots of things to consider, but if I was in hot baking London and couldn't bear it, just wanting to escape, I would seriously consider being somewhere else for the duration.

Franski Thu 09-Jul-26 14:55:34

Sorry for typos..it's the heat..!

Franski Thu 09-Jul-26 14:54:45

Lots to consider here. Don't make any decisions until Autumn is with us.
Do a forcefield analysis: on the left side, all the reasons you like being where you are. All the losses of going. On the right, all the reasons you want go North and all the losses of going.

Think through each one. There may be areas you can adapt/ mitigate/ build on. Nothing is ever what we want it to be, but what are the negotiated compromisrs, what are the non-negotiables?

If you generally love where you are. The heat in summer feels like a horrid but temporary challenge that has solutions.

Take care xx

ordinarygirl Thu 09-Jul-26 14:44:30

why do you believe it will be cooler where you move to? we are in Wiltshire and it is over 34 degrees

Ktsmum Thu 09-Jul-26 14:44:24

Not much respite here in the North Rast I'm afraid, we too are sweltering at 30°, maybe coastal areas might be a bit cooler. I agree it's unbearable, even though I don't wish for rain, I wish we could have sunshine but cooler temps.

Fallingstar Thu 09-Jul-26 14:43:06

And I really couldn’t move away from the family.

Fallingstar Thu 09-Jul-26 14:42:13

Thanks again, so many kind replies.
I think this heat just really gets me down atm.
In answer to an earlier post my DH can no longer drive and I don’t drive, but we can get an air conditioned uber on occasion and will think of doing that to a nearby greenspace soon.
One of SiLs is going to get us an air cooler and drop it off soon.
I know it sounds bad to moan about this when we can get awful winter weather but it is the inability to get out much that is depressing along with sleep deprivation.

Time2 Thu 09-Jul-26 14:40:57

We recently had an air con unit installed in our living / dining room. It's a large room, and gets the afternoon and evening sun. I find this hot weather really oppressive, but the air con has made such a HUGE difference, and cost us just under £1,600.

Also, as far as your DH is concerned OP, could you consider getting him a walking pad, so that he can walk in a cool room indoors (if you get the air con as well). I just had a look to see if you can get really slow walking machines and you can. Have a look here:

www.google.com/search?q=can+you+get+walking+machines+that+go+really+slowly&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB1071GB1176&oq=can+you+get+walking+machines+that+go+really+slowly&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRifBdIBCDk3MTRqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8

You can buy a really good one for £329.99 here:

www.amazon.co.uk/Redliro-Walking-Treadmill-Long-Handrails/dp/B0DSW3Q47T/ref=asc_df_B0DSW3Q47T?hvlocphy=9192471&gad_source=1&linkCode=df0&hvptwo=&psc=1&mcid=261c04f2fb003046becf0725fc2ad35e&hvnetw=g&hvadid=765234131882&hvpone=&hvlocint=&hvpos=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvocijid=13669493784592953497-B0DSW3Q47T-&hvqmt=&hvexpln=0&tag=gransnetforum-21&hvtargid=pla-2400069764135&hvrand=13669493784592953497

Having lived 200 miles from family for 10 years, we moved to be closer to them as we get older, 3 years ago, and I certainly wouldn't consider moving further away again, no matter how much I loved the area of Wales where we used to live.

Andromeda Thu 09-Jul-26 14:40:50

Sorry, that should read ‘ However if your dd needs you ‘

cc Thu 09-Jul-26 14:23:54

Having a conservatory or large glass patio doors makes things hotter, but there are various ways to keep cooler, including external shutters or an electric awning.
We're in a flat, it has a sunny balcony but we have a big awning over the top which does help. I know that you can get shades which fit on the outside of a conservatory to keep the heat down, we had these years ago and they made a big difference. Or you could put a solid roof on it?
We also have two portable air conditioners (chosen from Which Best Buys) which make life bearable, if not exactly chilled. I think that properly built in conditioner would help even more, and would cost less than moving.
I think it would be a shame to move away from your family, but perhaps moving to a different property in the same area could be an option? One that was easier to keep cool.

Janlara Thu 09-Jul-26 14:12:38

I just want to point out that fans don't cool the air at all, they just move it around and the breeze feels cooling on the skin. Only have your fans on if you are within breeze-shot. Fans in empty rooms are a waste of electricity. I wish this wasn't the case 😟
So sorry you are feeling so uncomfortable in this heat, Fallingstar.
I'm in outer London in a 30s bungalow that certainly wasn't built for such temperatures (34c today) and feel the same.
Like others I think a couple of air conditioning units are the answer, rather than an expensive move that might not turn out to be beneficial overall.
Thanks, all, for the good advice. I'm going to check out the AC units and evaporative cooler.

Jules777 Thu 09-Jul-26 14:07:19

FallingStar
I'd stay put near your familiar surroundings, and friends and family if I were you. Moving house is so very stressful, expensive and time consuming, I would very definitely prefer to spend the money on getting some a/c installed.