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upsydaisy Wed 06-Jul-11 21:47:22

Am really worried but don't want to panick. My 14 month old grandson developed a temperature on Monday, now its Wednesday evening and he isn't getting any better, still has very high temperature. My daughter took him to Doctors this afternoon. He couldn't find any obvious reason for high temperature (checked his ears etc). He said to keep on giving him Calpol and lots of drinks. 3 whole days with a raging temperature seems quite concerning to me. If he carries on this way through tonight would you call a doctor out in the night? Really worried about him. All babies get temperatures but to go on so long? He is still awake now (9.45) and is very hot and sweaty. He was playing in the sand on the beach on Sunday and am wondering if he's picked up something nasty off there.

Grumpyoldwoman Wed 06-Jul-11 22:16:58

I would phone NHS 24 or be on the safe side or take him to A & E. Our grandson had a fit with a temperature a few months ago and then it was a blue light job.
He is only a baby and cannot tell you what is wrong. My SIL is a paramedic and I would phone to ask his advice but he is working tonight.
Always better to be safe than sorry ..but I would phone NHS 24.
Hope it is 'just' a virus but don't take any chances.
Thinking about you xxx

jackyann Wed 06-Jul-11 22:24:46

retired nurse here.

My advice would be not to go to A&E unless you are very worried as waiting there with a poorly child can just make him more miserable.

My advice is:
Review GPs original advice: did they say "if temperature doesn't reduce with x or y" or something similar?
Totally agree with phoning NHS 24 who will advise on ringing the out-of-hours service and tailor their advice to what is available locally so you don't waste time.

Hope it clears up

upsydaisy Wed 06-Jul-11 22:39:34

Thanks. He has gone to sleep now, did offer my daughter to stay with us tonight as she is a single mum and its not very nice being on your own with a poorly baby. She knows she can ring us any time in the night so hopefully he will be OK until tomorrow. The problem is he looks awful one minute then seems OK half an hour later. As it was he'd just had a sleep before he went to the Doctors this afternoon so he was really happy and smiley when he was there so I suppose the Doctor thought there can't be that much wrong with him and yet last night he apparently woke screaming crying with soaking wet hair and trickles of sweat running down his face. When he came to our house just after lunch his hands were really cold and his face looked cold with bluish looking lips but his body and head were really hot. After some Calpol and a cuddle he looked a lot better so he's very much up and down. Will definitely ring NHS if he wakes in the night very hot again.

greenmossgiel Thu 07-Jul-11 09:19:24

Hope your wee grandson is much better this morning, upsydaisy? Did you need to contact NHS24? Best wishes. smile

jangly Thu 07-Jul-11 09:31:13

I wonder if it could be tied in with teething at all. He will probably be getting his first molars now and they can be the worst coming in. If it was anything really bad I don't think he would be having up times. He would more likely be feeling down all the time. Just the crying alone could account for him being hot. I know my first grandson used to have really wet hair for no real reason.
Certainly take him back to the docs if his temperature goes really high.

Hope it passes soon.

susiecb Thu 07-Jul-11 09:36:04

I do hope baby is a bit better now. I'd go back to the GP today if it were me, NHS Direct in the night but if your not satisfied and trust your instincts on this one take him to A & E. I worked for a paediatrician once who said mothers and presumably grandmothers intuition is to be trusted. Having worked a lot in A & E its not worried parents with sick children that waste their time its drunks, drug addicts and general time wasters and hypoichondriacs.Best wishes

jackyann Thu 07-Jul-11 11:58:04

Let us hope that the baby is better and it was "just one of those things".
However, to generalise, and to clarify my position to susiecb: I too have worked in A&E as a specialist nurse, as well as in the community with children (must make it clear that I am now retired)

My concern about taking a poorly baby to A&E is not "wasting time" (as you say, they are NOT the time-wasters!) but that the child may be kept waiting in a difficult environment; it is less easy in an A&E waiting room to offer the usual care, make comfy, plenty of drinks etc. and aid recovery.
Of course it is sometimes necessary, but in many cases I felt the child's recovery was not helped. That is why I welcomed NHS24, and except in obvious emergencies would always suggest ringing them for a guide.

Would that chime with your experience?

JessM Thu 07-Jul-11 22:11:33

NICE have some very detailed guidelines these days on fever in young children because high temperature may indicate a range of serious illnesses. This was based on extensive consultation of experts in the medical profession.

upsydaisy Fri 08-Jul-11 19:15:50

Thank you so much for all your suggestions and kind concern. Thankfully he did show some improvement by the Thursday morning with his temperature having come down. He now seems to be fully recovered and back to his normal smiley self Sorry I didn't reply to anyone but I work all day on Thursdays and Fridays so haven't been on the internet. No teeth have appeared and he doesn't seem to have a cold or anything so not really sure what it was but was starting to get really concerned because it lasted for 3 days and didn't seem to be going. JessM - I will look at guidelines re high temperature for future reference as this happened earlier in the year and his GP was so concerned that he was going to send him to hospital the next day if there was no improvement, but that turned out to be a cold and chesty cough.

Thanks lots xx

greenmossgiel Fri 08-Jul-11 19:26:25

Oh, that IS good news, upsydaisy! Little ones can be up and down again in no time at all, but what a worry it can be! It's good that we can come on here and ask other grans what they would do. It's quite a comfort! smile

upsydaisy Fri 08-Jul-11 19:37:04

Hi greenmossgiel, it is good to get others' perspective on something like this as I'm inclined to panic. My daughter was worried but she's quite sensible where things like that are concerned and she just made sure he had plenty to drink, gave him Calpol and made sure he didn't have too many clothes on and didn't cover him in bed. I'm very proud of her, she's much better at being a mum than I ever was.

greenmossgiel Fri 08-Jul-11 20:15:50

I'm sure that's not the case at all, upsydaisy!! I got myself in a right old panic the other day when my wee great-grandson banged his head on my kitchen (stone) floor. I imagined immediate brain damage and was just about climbing the wall in fear because he was screaming so much. (He's 13 months). His mum (19), came into the kitchen, picked him up and cuddled him until he was soothed. I pretended I wasn't frightened, and heard her tell her sister that it was important to make sure that he didn't become drowsy, and that she'd keep her eye on him in the meantime....Of course, he was off like a shot again, having a wonderful time. I think we worry so much more about our grandchildren. We could 'go with the flow' a bit easier when we were younger, I think! smile

Sbagran Fri 08-Jul-11 22:24:20

Hi Upsydaisy!
Am so pleased that baby seems fine again - why do they do these things to us - put years on us don't they! It's great to hear a grandma stating how proud she is of her daughter but don't put yourself down - you did a good job bringing her up to be that good Mum!
Let's have a proud Mum's club!!!
My daughter is sadly divorced (well not really sadly because ex is waste of space!) but since being on her own with two kiddies has gone back to college. She had another set of results today and got another 2:1 degree - that four x 1sts and two x 2:1's in the six modules done so far. She is chuffed and so am I as it's been tough studying with two kiddies and an unpredictable ex!
Let's wallow in pride!!!!

greenmossgiel Sat 09-Jul-11 10:03:38

Well done to your daughter Sbagran! You are right to be proud! smile

GoldenGran Sat 09-Jul-11 10:46:19

Shagran you are right to be proud of your daughter, she has done well. I am proud of mine who has gone through something similar. Her partner left a year ago leaving her on her own with a then 18 month old and a four and a half year old. He move down the road with new girlfriend, defaulted on the mortgage and gave her no support. A year on she has moved into a little rented house which she loves, works when she can from home, and in September, when the little one has more time at nursery is going back to college. I think sometimes it's good to admit we're proud mums!

bikergran Sat 09-Jul-11 19:27:37

"Goldengran Sbagran" how proud you must be of your daughters..."good luck to them both" onwards and upwards smile

Sbagran Mon 11-Jul-11 23:22:14

Thanks folks for permission to be proud! Keep it up girls it's such a boost to the morale isn't it! Good luck to all our offspring that make us proud!

Grannygee Mon 28-Nov-11 12:18:19

How lovely to be able to discuss this sort of thing with other like minded people! My grandson (so far only grandchild) is 19 months old and I worry about things concerning him just like I did with his mum (now 31) and my son (who is now 29). I'm going to post something else on here now as I have a bit of a worry about him and you've given me comfort just reading your replies! I haven't really looked closely yet at the forums so now I will! wink

Carol Mon 28-Nov-11 12:24:20

Might be useful to start a new thread as this reads at first as though there is an emergency, until you scroll down to read this new posting grannygee. I hope your little grandson is ok and look forward to chatting with you x