Theresa May

Both horde and swarm are emotive words when used to describe people - they are intended to create negative emotions and they do, either about the people in the group or about person who uses them.

I think that was exactly it Baggs

I think people decided it was objectionable when David Cameron referred to swarms of refugees. Whether he meant what he said to be objectionable is moot. He might just have meant a large number, as in horde.

I wasn't hinting at any name change Lemons - how could I know? I would rather not be privy to your conversations with GNHQ as I wouldn't have thought talking about it on here would help with your problems and I certainly don't want to add to them.

maryeliza please could you explain why the word "swarm" is objectionable? In use as either a noun (a large or dense group of flying insects); or a verb (protesters were swarming into the building), I can't find any connection to why it's an unacceptable word to use. As you find it so unacceptable, please could you tell me why?

Interesting article news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6129844.stm How Blair recreated Labour It's strapline is "Tony Blair did not change the Labour Party - he created an entirely new party."

Been trawling back a long way have we GGM2 ?
Nothing on this thread is relevant to what you say, and bringing up ancient threads is another story.
No need for all the little hints at name changes, but I have asked GNHQ to protect my identity for very good reasons, and I would ask all GN members to accord me the same courtesy.I have never changed my posting style, so many will have guessed, but all others, with the exception of yourself and durhamjen have given me that courtesy.

Hear, hear, iam. Governments don't do perfect but some do more good than others.

Well I don't use it negatively me54. I use it as a descriptor if/when I use it. Out of interest, what else do you think would be as straightforward a group name for Corbyn's close followers and admirers but would count as calling by a name rather than "name-calling"?

Blair's government did take the LP away from its roots in some ways, Blair was a reformer. The party won elections. The children and families I worked with benefitted hugely. I won't forget the pride in former mining areas, mass unemployment, run down leaking school buildings when a community school with health visitors, midwives, family centre, library and other support services was opened.
I don't deny the Blair government wasn't perfect but I'm heading for 70 now and can't recall a perfect government in my lifetime or historically.
I'd prefer Blair and Brown to the current or previous tory governments. The sick, vulnerable and benefit claiming families I worked with, members of my own family are suffering and fearful. I wish Theresa May would implement some of the promises she made in her first speech at number 10. I've grumbled before that TM can talk a good talk but her government continues to diminish life chances for many of us.

Interesting that you should say no one has been called a communist, etc., on here Lemons. I have looked back and one of the first references made was by and ex-member (it seems) called Rosesarered who suggested whitewave wanted a communist society. It has happened and it has been inferred so please don't call people liars.

It is name calling because on here it's used incorrectly and negatively and quite frankly abusively but of course saying that is bullying.

I don't think Corbynite or Corbynista are name-callings so much as giving a name to a group, that of his closest followers. I don't see it as essentially different from nomenclatures like Tories, Blue Labour, Blairites, etc.

I rather thought breeding was what toffs like JRM have but I'm waiting for enlightenment.

I suppose "breeding" is something to do with your parentage, well I prefer this sort of a parent. A moving and inspiring speech from Corbyn, about as different from May as you can get www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qj-wtH5CBc
(Stands back and waits for name calling- is it Cobynite or Corbynista I'm never sure which applies)

"taking it back[wards]" is rather the problem, I think.

Well I don't agree with you lemongrove

Agreed ilove and correcting that slur is NOT bullying. Re 'good breeding' still waiting.

No, maryeliza it is much, much more than that.But all the posters who read this thread can make their own minds up, about exactly what is going on here. ?

Nobody mocked Mrs may for her childlessness.

What on earth does 'good breeding' mean?

lemongrove you are a hoot. Correcting a false post is not bullying it's er correcting a false post. If anyone posts a lot of false posts they will get a lot of corrections - there is a simple solution to this.

Now how was I to know you had tried to make a joke GG, you failed sorry

Keep up AB - I didn't say it!

I don't think anyone has forgotten what Blair did AB. Historically he will have been seen to try and change the LP fundamentally - because he did. This is a reversion to the original beliefs it was based on. You have done nothing to convince me that Blair did not take the LP away from it origins - what he achieved or didn't achieve is irrelevant to that point - and now those who believe in the original stance of its founders are taking it back. That is history not politics.

There you go again annie making it up - who mocked TM about her childlessness? Some of us said that a party conference speech was not an appropriate setting to bring this up. Now because I've said you were wrong in what you said, you can accuse me of bullying. Plenty of us left of centre said we were sympathetic about her cold/coughing. So again, you are hitting out at anyone on the left whether it's true or not what you say

Nobody on here has been called a Communist, Marxist or Trot, let’s just get that clear. Pretending that they have been so called, is a simple lie.
They may well be those things of course, we have no way of knowing, but nobody has suggested that they are.
vampirequeen you ask why those on the far left are referred to as bullies? Hmmmn, let’s think about that, and then read all the posts directed against Anniebach shall we?? A group of posters aiming barbs at just one person, herself a Labour supporter but just not a supporter of Corbyn.