How do the "Have Nots" get on in life?

What do you mean crawl in the winter? Why not report them - if I was so sure of all my facts that someone was cheating the system, I would.

And anyway why mention them at all ?

Because I am bloody annoyed that's why and if others can post of a nurse using a food bank why not post of two benefit cheats , I didn't bring up zero contract hours , what has that to do with the O/P

Spelling error - CAWL , I expect you would report them , I wouldn't

Well with all the personal information you put on here and now your description of the twins ( and they must be unique in your town) they are easily identifiable to the DWP.

If as you suspect, they are benefit cheats, report them to DWP. I would do so, the same as I would report someone for cheating HMRC by working cash in hand and not paying VAT, two sides of the same coin, cheating is cheating however you look at it.

What does CAWL mean?

Why won’t you report them — according to you they are breaking the law

I do not suspect - I know and I would not report anyone

Anniebach knows what she's on about. She's done a lot of good direct work with and for people in need of all sorts. Hearing about those two must be absolutely infuriating for her.
It's people like that who give all benefits claimants a bad name. Not fair to others.

Exactly Jane so not reporting them is very unfair to other decent claimants

Thank you Jane, I am so angry, I have got free furniture for them and now worried who had a genuine need and had to wait .

Why is speaking of benefit cheats such a crime

Being a benefit cheat is a crime and knowing they are you are colluding with this and as you say others who are genuine go without or have to wait longer~ how is that fair?

Well said MawBroon.
I do wonder where those who denigrate the yoof of today, whilst suggesting most of us grew up and lived in a country I never knew, where no one got pregnant out of 'wedlock', no one had HP, everyone worked hard and saved and there was no such thing as benefits. Benefits - in the mid 60's people still got clothing grants and other support as well as their unemployment benefit. Jobs were more plentiful and offered greater job security. Young women and girls who became pregnant often disappeared for several months, often to tell people on return they'd been sent to a mother and baby unit and their baby removed and adopted.
Give me 2017 with all its problems any day.

Unlike you maryeliza i do not report people, I leave reporting to the dogooders , I know of their up bringing

I feel just like annie but in my case over tax avoiders/evasion. So much more money goes missing, than the ever does on benefits cheats.

whitewave, I see no difference between benefit cheats and tax dodgers but would not report them , we will always have both. I wouldn't feel I had done what was right if I reported anyone , the thought that I may feel smug is enough to put me off.

But you're happy to talk about them on a public forum Annie. If the Daily Mail gets its claws into this thread they could well be reported. It would balance things out a bit if you wrote about some of the benefits claimants you know who are not cheating the system.

I would definately report tax cheats, and in fact have done on more than one occasion.

I have often spoken of those in need , genuine need

Fair play then.

I am surprised the Daily Mail reads this forum considering many posters think it not worthy to be used as emergency loo paper ?

But whitewave, apart from numbers there is no difference

Are you talking about the principle of the two illegal acts annie?

Why all piling onto Annie because she's cross about 2 people, whom she knows personally, that are claiming benefits and using food banks but able to go on holiday to Thailand? She hasn't tarred every claimant with the same brush; she was quite clear that she said 2.

And if you want to know what CAWL is Maryeliza, Google it.