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Liz. and Phil

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Morgana Fri 17-Nov-17 20:51:43

Keep seeing all these ads for forthcoming TV programme. Do we really think they are still madly in love?

BlueBelle Sat 18-Nov-17 13:26:45

Liz and Phil is not in the least bit disrespectful surely we have gone past the era of touching the forelock I think all the bowing and walking backwards or whatever they do is awful They are only flesh and blood, very pampered, and very expensive products
I m not a royal lover or royal hater they are just part of my country and are there
As to the marriage Phil has been put out to pasture in Sandringhan ‘care home’ and Lizzie is at Windsor I think the state of their marriage is between them only i have no interest I personally think all the royals have always had dalliances even old Victoria
I wish them well as I would any old couple
My Dad died one day before their 70th anniversary

ninathenana Sat 18-Nov-17 12:12:14

I see nothing wrong with calling them Liz and Phil. No different to Charlie or Kate (yes, I know she's not royal) or do those who object always say Prince Charles or Duchess of Cornwall.
There are several pages on FB that seem to think they have insider information into the lives of Liz n Phil and her feelings on the expected grandchild and Harry and Meghan.
Nobody knows and personally I don't care what their relationship is like.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 12:08:43

Paddyann, you said the French and Russians had the right idea, you not know how they got rid of their royal families perhaps.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 12:06:54

No way Oldwoman, but in fairness May does have dignity , I admit I admire people with dignity, doesn't mean I agree with their life choices.

Oldwoman70 Sat 18-Nov-17 11:52:12

I have to smile at those who "know" what has happened between the Queen and Prince Phillip because they have read it in some newspaper or magazine. I have no idea whether they love each other deeply or can't stand the sight of each other - and quite frankly don't care. Yes they do live lives most of us can't imagine (or want), yes they want for nothing (except a private life) but to be honest what would you replace them with, a President May or President Corbyn?

paddyann Sat 18-Nov-17 11:44:31

* Anniebach* getting rid of monarchy ...I didn't specify murder

Gemmag Sat 18-Nov-17 11:22:46

Liz and Phil........

Appalling bad taste!. It’s none of our business?

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 11:10:11

Heaven doesn't exsist in the opinions of atheists

merlotgran Sat 18-Nov-17 11:09:11

Since his retirement the D of E has apparently been living at Wood farm, described as a 'modest cottage' hmm on the Sandringham estate. It has had its uses that's for sure.

This is where the unfortunate teenage Prince John was hidden away for two years with his nurse until his death. It has also been used to house unpopular divorced spouses like Fergie so they can see their children at Christmas.

Now it's the Royal Care Home grin

I wish them both a Happy Anniversary.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 11:05:00

The French and Russians had the right idea? Murder . We all have own beliefs in the taking of lives I suppose. I have always been against the death penalty.

Bellasnana Sat 18-Nov-17 10:50:22

There is no need to be patronizing, paddyann. That's your opinion. Mine is different.

Grandma70s Sat 18-Nov-17 10:26:34

maryeliza54 We are not ‘supposed’ to buy into a myth. We can think whatever we like. Personally, I quite enjoy having a royal family. It’s better than a soap opera. I have no objection to a very, very small proportion of our population being rich.

maryeliza54 Sat 18-Nov-17 10:15:41

They are just like the rest of us - worrying about getting a GP appointment, the waiting list for our knee replacement, the electric bill if it’s a cold winter, helping our children on the housing ladder, worrying about our eyesight and driving especially when there’s no public transport .....

maryeliza54 Sat 18-Nov-17 10:13:27

Well given that heaven doesn’t exist for one thing .....

paddyann Sat 18-Nov-17 10:13:16

you do know bellasnanna that they are JUST humans like the rest of us...that they aren't superior beings although they appear to think they are.? There is NO divine right of accession or even no right for them and their multiplying offspring to be kept at a huge cost to the country .The French and the Russians had the right idea ..its centuries out of date .

lemongrove Sat 18-Nov-17 10:11:41

Does everyone on GN have a ‘ match made in Heaven’ ?
They certainly looked happy in their younger days, and like most of us have grown older together and understand each other, and yes love each other.
Nobody our age is wildly ‘in love’.

henetha Sat 18-Nov-17 10:11:40

No-one can possibly know how the Queen and Prince Philip feel about each other, and it's nobody elses business. But I would say there is deep affection. I don't think the phrase
"madly in love" is appropiate for anyone of their age.
And I think we should have a bit of respect for the Queen, whatever our views.

maryeliza54 Sat 18-Nov-17 10:11:29

The problem for me is that we are supposed to buy into the myth that is their relationship and the whole Royal Family. We will never know the truth and at one level I couldn’t care less but I dislike the fact that we are treated like idiots in the image we are fed.

Anniebach Sat 18-Nov-17 10:10:01

It's how arranged marriages work, the media insist on this great love, neither of them have ever given an interview or run to the press like Diana-thank heaven . Queenie also spends most of her time at Windsor .

Think of the constant story of the QM who said in the war - I will not leave without the king and the children will not leave without me. They were tucked away at Windsor with a plane on standby .

Their marriage seems to be that of a couple who put duty before all else, it's how they were brought up and it's what was expected of them. I am sure they have a very strong and deep friendship and affection for each other, they can trust each other with their secrets.

Grandma70s Sat 18-Nov-17 10:09:22

I think affairs were pretty much accepted by the upper classes of that generation, for the men at least. I have no idea if Philip had any or not, but it wouldn't have wrecked their marriage.

They must be used to each other by now, at least. That is all we can know. I hope Philip makes it to Monday, the day of their anniversary. He looked terrible at the Remembrance formalities, I thought.

I think the Queen lives mostly in Windsor rather than Buckingham Palace.

vampirequeen Sat 18-Nov-17 10:06:55

Phil and Liz are their names so why is it rude? Would it still be rude if we wrote Philip and Elizabeth? They're a couple who have lived their lives in the public eye and have done very well out of it.

Luckygirl Sat 18-Nov-17 09:59:58

Yes indeed - I read somewhere that the Dof E's advice to Charles condoned "offside" relationships. I do not see anything much worthy of celebration about Phil and Liz - all you can really say is they married and they have not divorced. We have no evidence that it is a match made in heaven and that they have been faithful, so why all the fuss?

Bellasnana Sat 18-Nov-17 09:56:46

None of anybody else's business and referring to them as 'Liz and Phil' is rude, in my humble opinion.

vampirequeen Sat 18-Nov-17 09:52:33

My mam told me that things fell apart when the Queen told Princess Margaret that she couldn't marry the divorced chap. Princess Margaret was distraught and told the Queen what everyone had been hiding from her i.e. that Prince Philip was unfaithful. However as divorce was out of the question they just got on with it but the relationship was never the same again.

Perhaps they don't see sexual fidelity as the be all and end all of a relationship?

Maybe that was why Charles thought he could be married to Diana and have Camilla on the side. Was it the family norm? If so, it must have been a hell of a shock when Diana (and Fergie with Andrew) simply didn't accept it.

DanniRae Sat 18-Nov-17 09:32:35

I read in the paper (DM) that Prince Philip is mainly living out of London and thus separate from the Queen? I found this very odd but as others have said it's their life and if it suits them, after all these years, then fine.