Gransnet forums

Ask a gran

Do vegans wear wool?

(266 Posts)
phoenix Wed 03-Jan-18 17:35:33

Well, just that, really. I know that (most) don't wear leather shoes, obviously you can only get leather from a dead animal (ooh, just thought, they could have garments made from snakeskin, providing it had been shed/sloughed) smile

But what about wool?

NfkDumpling Sun 07-Jan-18 07:39:52

Yes, I think so Jalima They are muttering that eventually it may all go to Germany, but to Burton first for a couple of years. I think they're hedging their bets. It's a real shame that we're loosing the factory, but the mustard and mint will still be grown by the same farmers, mostly in West Norfolk. They have new contracts for a new milling plant on the outskirts of Norwich. We're to have a "Food Hub" apparently! Lots of negotiating going on.

All the yellow stuff around here is oil seed rape. Some years there's more rape than anything else. That can go to Germany anytime and take it's pollen with it! Hate the stuff!

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 11:21:14

Oh, I see now, the decisions to close the Colman's factory in Norwich is a direct result of Britvic closing down on the same shared site.
Colman's will be moving to Burton where they already make Marmite and Bovril.
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/43-jobs-created-colmans-mustard-1016263

So a gain for Burton, a loss for Norwich, overall loss of 45 jobs in the UK (is that right?)

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 11:17:17

DH told me that part of Colman's was moving to Staffordshire as well.

Perhaps there is not so much call for dry mustard in the UK, although I do I buy it to add to sauces.

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 11:14:05

The new facility will create 25 jobs.

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 11:13:26

Britvic being clsed at Carrow Road, too.
'The combined closures will result in a loss of 343 jobs in Norwich.

Jon Strachan, Unilever’s vice president of supply chain, said he recognised the decision will be “difficult news” for employees on site.

He said the proposals were the end product of a 16-week review and gave the “best overall business case” for the company.

While the factory will close, he said the creation of a new milling facility will maintain the historic link between Norwich and the Colman’s brand.

He confirmed the “Colman’s of Norwich” branding will remain on the jars.'

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 11:08:15

Colman's dry sauces being moved to Germany, NFK.
Not just out of Norfolk, out of the UK.

NfkDumpling Sat 06-Jan-18 10:50:32

DJ. Just caught up with this thread. For info: Colman’s are moving their production plant out of Norfolk but rebuilding a state-of-the-art dry processing plant on the outskirts of Norwich. The present site being much more valuable for housing. Dry mustard will still be packed here. The new site will process all the mustard and mint grown in Norfolk (14 farmers I think in all) and enable the firm to continue to be known as Colmans of Norwich. Most of the bright yellow fields around aren’t mustard, they’re rape. Horrible stuff which makes me (and a lot of others) cough!

lemongrove Sat 06-Jan-18 09:47:06

Very sensible thought IngeJ

IngeJones Sat 06-Jan-18 09:35:45

Well I certainly wouldn't choose my diet according to some "international month" someone's decided to set up. My advice is to forget all about it till the campaign is over, then think about it in your own time in your own way and for your own reasons.

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 12:07:51

www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/9-reasons-why-veganism-can-save-the-world/

Soniah Fri 05-Jan-18 10:44:46

I hope so!

Chewbacca Fri 05-Jan-18 10:42:39

I expect most people do really Soniah.

Soniah Fri 05-Jan-18 10:32:43

I'm not vegan but I'm a bit shocked at how aggressive some of the posts are, many vegans just do what they can to reduce their impact on the environment and animals, they do what they feel is right and don't on the whole tell the rest of us what to do. What nonsense, even if in fun, to talk about living in rubber wellies - there are plenty of alternatives as stated in previous posts. If it is not harming you why not live and let live?

nightowl Fri 05-Jan-18 00:23:37

Re leather shoes. Here is a quote from a company producing vegan shoes:

leather used for fashion unfortunately is not very natural at all (and far from always a by-product from the food industry). Toxic chemicals such as zinc, lead, dyes, cyanide and formaldehyde are used to treat it, which makes it decompose very slowly, producing a greater quantity of refuse which has an obvious negative environmental impact. In addition, tanneries consume a lot of energy and are very polluting; and the carcinogenic chemicals used negatively affect the health of workers, too.

This company uses a variety of materials to produce vegan shoes including micro fibre PU (which holds the EU eco label), plant based polymers (as opposed to those produced from petrochemicals), a fabric made from pineapple leaves, cork and recycled rubber. Companies such as this are continually looking to reduce their carbon footprint and to remain ethical. I think these materials compare very favourably in every respect with the more traditional leather goods we have been told are ‘natural’.

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 05-Jan-18 00:21:03

Chewbaka add courgettes to the list of vegetables I don't like. BUT I LOVE cheese and tomato! grin

M0nica that must be hard. I hope you don't have to wait too long for the surgery.

Chewbacca Thu 04-Jan-18 23:47:49

Hope your op is not too long to wait M0nica and all is well soon. My friend had the OP last year and has had good results.

M0nica Thu 04-Jan-18 23:35:41

Please ignore the above it shouldn't have been posted and will, I hope, be removed.

I am having problems at the moment. I am awaiting carpal tunnel surgery. My thumb and first two fingers on my right hand are numb and unuseable so I am typing with my ring and little finger and keep hitting all kinds of odd keys by accident.

M0nica Thu 04-Jan-18 23:30:58

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Chewbacca Thu 04-Jan-18 23:09:20

My DS and DIL are also veggies but neither of them like mushrooms, courgettes or aubergines. I feel as though everything I cook for them is cheese and tomato based. Any recipe suggestions would be gratefully received.

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 04-Jan-18 23:06:12

I thought cats had servants not owners? hmm

It hadn't occurred to me the increase in meat eaters opting for a vegetarian option when eating out was improving veggie options for everyone. I'm very grateful for that, so thank you. wink

It's rare now to look at a menu with no veggie options at all. Although I've been vegetarian for over 20 years, I am fussy. I don't like peppers or mushrooms, but unfortunately so many veggie options have these as ingredients. Not keen on aubergine or celery either. Just because I'm veggie doesn't mean that I like every veggie. blush grin

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 04-Jan-18 22:55:28

Jalima I realised that when I had a look at the website. I did look for a big chap who might manage to carry me and then read some TripAdvisor reviews that explained the trekking was done using Shank's pony and not on the back of the alpacas! tchgrin

At least Kevin and I have Katie went together! tchgrin

lemongrove Thu 04-Jan-18 22:52:54

Jalima mmmm, carrots, my fave veg, sorry Kevin and Katie.

lemongrove Thu 04-Jan-18 22:51:39

I am very happy to see many vegetarian menus around these days, offering more choice than the usual veg lasagne.
I sometimes even order a veggie meal.
Wouldn't want to eat that way all the time though, imagine no roast chicken, bacon sarnies, sausages, etc.
It’s all just a matter of different choices, nothing is either good nor bad, although the few vegans I know never look very well and are really pale.

lemongrove Thu 04-Jan-18 22:45:17

amt101 grin yes, pusscats do exploit their owners.Big time!

Jalima1108 Thu 04-Jan-18 20:09:09

No, they are were the carrots! grin