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Rats in the Garden

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Serkeen Mon 04-Jun-18 14:42:07

Can anyone help with this problem. I managed to get rid of mice in the house with pure peppermint oil, will this work for rats in the garden or does anyone have any solid tips going crazy can not go out in my garden for fear of them! sad

Serkeen Tue 05-Jun-18 08:50:05

Fennel could have done without those facts thanks !!

Serkeen Tue 05-Jun-18 08:55:34

Thank you I have learnt so much

Jack Russell dogs are good at catching rats
Put peppermint oil on a cotton ball and in an empty plastic air freshener pot and put it in the suspected areas
Rain can cause rats to appear

I knew asking gransneitter's would be so helpful and it has been, thank you ever soo much x

Off now to get my garden back smile

Thank you

dizzygran Tue 05-Jun-18 09:44:10

Had a rat outside a few months ago and I noticed that our neighbours had a composter close to our fence - rats love food - particularly rotting veg and eggshells. Haven't seen one for a while but there are a lot of cats around...

Sorepinkie Tue 05-Jun-18 09:45:15

We had rats - in our house - I thought it was field mice but when we got the pest control man to come and have a look he confirmed it was rats! I was absolutely horrified and couldn't sleep at all! Poison was the only solution and we had to block any holes into the house......and the Council asked us if we had water nearby - yes, a pet - yes, a compost heap - yes....perfect environment for rats seemingly! sad That was three years ago and haven't had any since....but any noise I hear!!!!!

Mamar2 Tue 05-Jun-18 09:45:37

Interesting reading this. A huge rat came into our garden several times from next doors garden. She got the Council folk in. Now we have four smaller ones who climb the pole of our bird feeder & eat from the seed containers would you believe?! Will empty the feeders & make sure the floors swept. Good informative thread.

floorflock Tue 05-Jun-18 09:45:40

We found that they went away after we had filled in any small holes we discovered under the shed and thereabouts.

Jaycee5 Tue 05-Jun-18 09:50:51

We have rats on our estate (although I have never seen them myself) and I have seen at least three people throwing big piles of bread out for the birds. We are next to a railway line so there will be some mice and rats around so it doesn't help to have idiots feeding them.
When I was a child our dog caught a rat but had no idea what to do so he just let it go.
I don't think there really is anything but those enclosed rat traps. That seems to be what supermarkets use. If you look you are bound to see some around their stores somewhere.

JaneD3 Tue 05-Jun-18 09:52:08

My son lives on the edge of a village. His council in Suffolk said that that is where rats are to be expected and they do t come out. He found a chap with an air rifle who soon solved the problem.

MargaretinNorthant Tue 05-Jun-18 09:54:37

Sitting in the garden with the cat we watched a huge rat amble across the lawn. Cat never batted an eyelid at the time but the next morning I was presented with a very dead rat on the doorstep. The following morning there were six baby rats laid out there, simple answer is adopt a cat!

TellNo1Ok Tue 05-Jun-18 09:59:02

council pest controller at a cost ...
tidy your garden of ALL food including bird food for a month or so...
carefully put down "cheesy rat" (or something like that...) protect from pets ... death will occur

good luck ....

B9exchange Tue 05-Jun-18 10:07:47

DH was turning over the contents of the compost bin and pulled at a buried root. However the 'root' proved to be the tail of a decomposing rat (sorry those of you having elevenses!) Council advised getting rid of bird feeder, but their traps were useless, however Homebase rat poison got rid of the family. They make me shudder because of the diseases they carry

Weil’s disease
Salmonella
Tuberculosis
Cryptosporidiosis
E.Coli
Foot and mouth disease

so they are the only animal I want to get rid of. (okay, not fond of wasps either!)

Blackcat3 Tue 05-Jun-18 10:10:52

Rats are immune to most current poisons. The only one I have found that works is Jaguar....you can get it in big tubs from Countrywide type shops....about £50.....but you must get a bait box as it will kill any animal that eats it. Wear gloves to fill the box. We had a colony of rats under our shed, due to owning rabbits and feeding the birds, our 2 cats didn’t touch them!.....however the 2 young cats we have now are a formidable team......so you could always get a couple of black cats!.....I am never certain if it’s the poison or the cats!....also no worries re cats etc eating the dead/dying rats as the poison is quickly metabolised.....but if you find a corpse I would bin it just to be on the safe side.

dawn8454 Tue 05-Jun-18 10:12:20

We had a rat problem and found that they were nesting under wooden decking next door. The council chap laid bait and they went. he said that decking is a very bad thing to have as rats and mice LOVE it.

NfkDumpling Tue 05-Jun-18 10:13:34

They apparently also have no bladder sphincter muscle which means they dribble pee. I often think of that when told what good pets they make.

sue01 Tue 05-Jun-18 10:30:29

We live in the countryside and were delighted when our Wire Haired Fox Terrier revealed himself to be a first class ratter.

The first time he caught a rat was in our neighbour's compost heap. He leapt to catch it in the air, one shake of his head and the thing was a goner.

The dog came rushing into the garden with the dead rat in his mouth, and sat down in front of me.

I offered him a Bonio in exchange... but he continued to stare at me with the rat in his mouth.

I then offered him two Bonios, and the rat was immediately dropped at my feet.

We firmly believe he was negotiating his rate per rat.

For many years he kept the surrounding area reasonably rat free... and was loaned out to local farmers on a contract basis at the bargain price of two Bonios per rat !!

grannygranby Tue 05-Jun-18 10:32:55

Poor old rats. They are opportunists like us and don’t we hate them for it. Yet our rat phobia enables the medical companies et al to experiment on them by the million without anyone complaining. We owe them a lot. I used to be an animal technician at the medical research council they are the most charming intelligent of animals.

goldengirl Tue 05-Jun-18 10:33:32

I've always understood that we're never far from a rat. I must say I wouldn't stop feeding the birds because of a rat - unless s/he brought the whole family round. We have 2 cats so perhaps that's a good deterrent because I've only ever seen one once ages ago in our garden and it wasn't well.

Yorkshiregirl Tue 05-Jun-18 10:59:51

Oh wow I've just come off the phone to environmental health about a major rat problem in the yards at the rear of a Chinese takeaway and a bar/restaurant next to my lovely home.

They breed in Spring and every year we have this issue mainly because there is food and shelter for them.

The businesses cause these issues by leaving food about and bins wide open.

I've been on to environmental health for 4 months now. It's got extremely bad and dozens of the horrible little buggers are running about.

I really don't know what else to do, and I am frightened to death.

NfkDumpling Tue 05-Jun-18 11:13:13

Your MP Yorkshiregirl and the local paper. It’s a health hazard if there are rats in the takeaway and if they’re in the yard they probably are getting inside too.

I have nothing against rats when they’re under control. But, like pigeons and urban foxes they can become a problem when there’s too much rubbish or food available. Once the source has been traced the problem usually disappears.

JanaNana Tue 05-Jun-18 11:26:37

Rats in the garden are often attracted by cooked food ....sometimes unwittingly put on composts heaps without realising this. Only raw vegetables/ fruit peelings etc should be put to compost..never cooked foods of any sort. I wonder if you don,t do this yourself, is it possible your immediate neighbours are doing this without realising the problems it can cause. I would contact your local pest control as this won't go away without professional help I think.

Grampie Tue 05-Jun-18 11:28:54

This is easy.

Find their sources of food and eliminate those sources over which you have control and ask your neighbours to do likewise.

Obtain the support of your council as necessary to eliminate their sources of food within range of your home.

Telly Tue 05-Jun-18 11:35:08

I would make sure that there is nothing that is attracting them as has been stated. I stopped feeding the birds a couple of years ago and restarted this year but am very careful. There are rats everywhere, you are never more than 20 foot from a rat in London, so I would leave them alone if they are staying outside.

grannypauline Tue 05-Jun-18 11:42:45

Rats, mice, squirrels (small mammals) hate chilli powder/cayenne pepper. They lick their feet once and never come back!

Sprinkle it generously (!) around back of kitchen cupboards and garden perimeter, maybe avoiding pets' areas. Warn children. Sorted - and without using any noxious poisons!

It goes off after 2 years and could be washed away so re-treat as necessary.

sazz1 Tue 05-Jun-18 11:45:25

I was always told by pest control that when mice leave the rats move in but they don't come together. We only had problems when next door neighbours had guinea pigs in the garden. You need to contact a private company pest control specialists to help. They will return a few times to ensure the poison has worked etc.

Craftycat Tue 05-Jun-18 11:55:14

I get rat poison from Sainsburys & it is very effective.