STOP CLAPPING!

I seem to be way behind with all this terminology thanks for the explanations notanana

Woke = agreeing blindly with every latest populist fad (even if they are contradictory)

It is when you don't think someone is on your "team" politically, and you publish their phone number/address/social media account online for other "right on" "woke" activists to bully

dox? Whatever is that notanan?

Thank you Tillybelle.

Students will soon be encouraged to "dox" their fellow students who are not woke enough.

It's very worrying. I am glad none of mine are not currently at uni!

I do a pretty mean dog whistle (fingers in the mouth) that's ear piercing, I could do that MissA?

I went to a sheep dog trial earlier this summer and my OH, who's very hard of hearing, wandered off into the crowd. No amount of calling his name attracted his attention, so I did my whistle. He heard me. And so did the poor confused dog in the field who suddenly didn't know which way he was supposed to go!

This is going to cumulate in civil unrest!

It is populism.
It is dangerous.

What about people who don't like facing consequences though?
Oppositional defiance disorder, anyone?

& by out of their way to be down with deaf people, who didnt ask for this, there can see clapping, what they probably need is interpretation of what is being clapped(or jazz handed) ABOUT, they are actually making the meeting less accessible to blind people!

For those who doubt the veracity of this new item:

Delegates at last year’s NUS conference said that students who whoop, cheer and clap should *face consequences*^”. ^Audience members were repeatedly warned that they must cease whooping to express support for a speaker, because it has a “serious impact” on ^the ^accessibility of the conference for disabled students. Source is the Telegraph.

I read a comment by a man who has extreme sensitivity to noise. Loud noises are amplified and painful. He said that he wears special hearing aids in busy places and doesn't appreciate his differences being highlighted by virtue signallers.

N.B her terminology, not mine!!

^Someone who works with people with autism ( sorry missed who he actually was) said it was better for people to integrate than for the majority to change. There are coping strategies that can be taught and ear defenders if necessary^
Precisely sodapop

I discussed this with DD who has ASD, today. She was part of the Cambridge research into autism a few years ago, and is very active supporting others on the spectrum so has a relatively wide perspective.
Her view: "the University would benefit a lot more from offering a course on coping strategies for ASD, than expecting the world to change. Aspies can enable themselves, you know!"

Oh and people WITH sensory issues are speaking out AGAINST this before you accuse me of not being understanding...

As I understand it, it is not 'banned'

Hmmmm

Hasn't the NUS said that they will be disciplining people who dont comply with the jazz handing at some if their meetings?

Look a bit deeper at what is going on in students unions. Compliant populist robots all singing from the sane hymn sheet, rather than a melting pot of ideas and discussions, seems to be the aim

Sadly, after a great start, the human race has lost the plot. We've ruined the planet for future generations in the name of progress and now we're attempting to ruin every aspect of the societies we've spent centuries creating. It's time for another species to take over!

......and stop treating everybody as a ‘victim’.

I heard this on BBC TV this morning and thought I had misheard. As a public speaker I couldn't think of anything more weird/disconcerting than to have an audience that periodically started waving at me! Clapping is something that we all do spontaneously. A child will clap their hands with glee when they are happy. Chimpanzee do it as a form of communication too.

I work with young adults and children with ASD and am very aware of sensory difficulties whether it be hearing or touch and more often, both at the same time but I have never come across clapping as being an issue. We all have to be aware of everyone around us and help one another wherever possible but we also have a duty of care to help our youngsters learn to play their part in our world too and join in with the clapping or take a bow, whichever is appropriate.

I would sooner sit in silence than have to do 'jazz hands'.

^
This.

I have a mental image of actors/performers who, having finished their performance, will now be faced with a sea of people; sat in silence; frantically waiving their hands in front of them!
Wonder what the alternative will be when they ban cheering, uproarious laughter or booing? Will we have to do thumbs up/thumbs down?

Haha ooh, don’t hold back SueDoku
This isn’t ‘fake news’btw but something the students union are pursuing for their university.
I don’t think anyone has said it would be common custom to do this in theatres up and down the land.
I don’t think Ms Khan is a polite and considerate young lady either, but a far left and mouthy person, after hearing her on the radio.

Well, that deserves some jazz hands!

Tilly is one of the only few people on this thread that have not swallowed the 'fake news' being propagated by the mainstream media, and has actually looked at exactly what was being proposed by the considerate students.
Frankly, most of the other posters on this thread are showing exactly why 'oldies' are seen as so judgemental, intolerant and unable to look at what is actually proposed rather than what is fed to them by the MSM. Look at yourselves ladies (and gentlemen) you should feel ashamed at your negative attitude - but I don't suppose that you will, as none of you could possibly be wrong...

Every time I think I've heard it all up pops another clown with an even more stupid demand.

Nannarose Thank you for all your wonderfully helpful comments! I did not know what "snowflake" meant but gathered it was disparaging. If people knew what the people in my research were going through they would be immensely cruel to disparage them. There are so many people who are unable to live full lives because of hearing problems and it was wonderful to read your information that deaf people do hear but hear horrible noises! Some of my patients were tormented so much by dreadful sounds of distorted noises from noise in the environment. They were very brave to leave their house at all!

I am glad you spoke out against foul language. It has no place here and reduces the discussion. Thank you for your words.

People are tending to speak from the experience of knowing one or two people with different hearing problems or ASD, but this is seldom helpful because a small but vociferous number does not reflect what actually happens across society. The research shows that there is a problem for people with hearing difficulties of many kinds and with different aetiologies. It causes immense misery to people who are unable to adapt to loud noise. I think the Students are very brave and have taken a huge step forward in trying to include people with this disability and to bring it to our attention. They are not stopping clapping in shows and plays etc in theatres! Why do people stray from the facts like this? They just want their students, all of them, to be able to take part in Student Union debates, discussions, meetings etc. That is very decent of them.