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STOP CLAPPING!

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Lyndiloo Wed 03-Oct-18 01:01:55

I heard on the news today that Manchester University Students Union has banned clapping, saying that it makes some students ANXIOUS !!! It asks that students do a 'Jazz-Hands' display instead.

I've never, in my life, heard anything so stupid!

ANXIOUS? Being a soldier at fifteen (as many boys were during the last two world wars), not having enough food or water, finding out that you've got some awful incurable disease, suffering from all the dreadful consequences of a tsunami - all these (and many more) are anxiety-ridden situations. But CLAPPING?

GET REAL!

(Though if I were surrounded by crowds of people all doing 'Jazz-Hands', I might feel a tad uncomfortable!)

PECS Thu 11-Oct-18 12:28:10

Correct threads!!??

The decision to add jazz hands to clapping was a vote taken at a Studends Union. Like it or not it was a political decision. Not party politics but politics!

lemongrove Thu 11-Oct-18 12:11:19

Oh trisher......no thanks, I leave all politics to the correct threads.

PECS I disagree with your confident assertion that everything has a political angle ( it doesn’t) and in fact, apart from you two posters, everybody else has managed to reply without it.
Most posters feel jazz hands is a stupid idea ( by just using common sense.)

PECS Thu 11-Oct-18 11:56:50

lemongrove I just want to clarify again that I have not been "tribal". I reiterate that the subjects you felt could be talked about without political references were in fact political issues..whatever your tribal perspective!

trisher Thu 11-Oct-18 11:52:03

Oh lemon if you can do a Jeremy Corbyn one do start and I'll join in. I always believe in balance, and I've posted 1 and a bit so its your turn!

lemongrove Thu 11-Oct-18 11:46:35

You have just proved my point trisher that some on GN
( fortunately not many) cannot cope with threads without raising tribal political points ( or rather, silly point scoring)
A bit sad really.
I could do a Jeremy Corbyn parody..... but that would be going down to your level, so won’t.

trisher Thu 11-Oct-18 11:32:42

Oha Treeza May one- I could start!

If you can keep your job when all about you,
The jackles gather waiting for a chance
If you can stick rigidly to Brexit
And even do a party conference dance

Anybdy want to carry on?

PECS Wed 10-Oct-18 22:20:31

I do not think I took any political 'side'!
trisher parodied IF alluding to the Labour Party, you criticised it. I wondered if it had been, say in praise of TreezaMay, you may have preferred it! That is not taking sides!

I tried to explain why I felt that politics did have a place on this particular debate. You disagree. That is OK!

lemongrove Wed 10-Oct-18 20:18:23

This isn’t the politics thread, and only trisher and PECS so far has put anything political into it.
Will assume in that case you are both so steeped in the subject that you can’t even comment on any thread without taking political sides.Pity!

trisher Wed 10-Oct-18 10:05:28

There is probably a thread about that somewhere PECS.

PECS Wed 10-Oct-18 10:03:40

Unles it is about how you prefer your parsnips cooked!

PECS Wed 10-Oct-18 08:47:12

Trouble is,Lenomgrove a person's values, attitudes and choices are often underpinned by their political thinking. Makes it tricky to separate it out! The word snowflakery in itself is a political construction. The decision to change the poem If was based on a political view, the proposal to introduce the use of Jazz hands was about greater equality & raising disability awareness which is steeped in political thinking. Not sure how you debate anything without one's political perspective colouring your opinion!

lemongrove Wed 10-Oct-18 08:19:18

A plea!
Could we discuss either snowflakery/student jazz hands/ poetry without politics being invoked on this thread?
Is this at all possible I wonder?

lemongrove Wed 10-Oct-18 08:16:28

Nope, not at all (it’s expected that politics would be brought into it though!)

Maw wrote the better parody ( sorry trisher) yours was a good try though nobody can seriously think you can knock up a great poem in 15 mins.

PECS Wed 10-Oct-18 07:38:08

I wonder if the parody bt Trisher had been in praise of the government rather than the opposition IF it might have been better recieved by some wink

Lyndiloo Wed 10-Oct-18 01:44:55

Oh dear, parodies of 'If'.

I agree with lemongrove - they're easy to do, but they're not Poetry. (The ones on here don't even 'scan'!) So no, trisher, you're sooo wrong - 'it's not bloody difficult, done in 15 minutes'. To compare your parody to Kipling's 'If' is ludicrous!

lemongrove Tue 09-Oct-18 23:23:29

Parodies are fun and easy to do, writing the poem that others parody... not so easy!

We shall have to differ about Kipling’s poem ( it’s what adults do.)

Applause all round......or jazz hands for those who prefer.grin

Chewbacca Tue 09-Oct-18 21:59:35

Fair play trisher, I couldn't have turned that out in 15 hours, let alone 15 minutes! So well done! wine

MawBroon Tue 09-Oct-18 20:57:37

Of course.

trisher Tue 09-Oct-18 20:53:32

Any time Maw I can give you a poem to parody if you like. We could start a thread and invite people to post. Of course we would have to trust that people were being honest about the time taken.

MawBroon Tue 09-Oct-18 20:48:35

15 minutes?
I might have turned out something rather better if I had had that long.

trisher Tue 09-Oct-18 20:40:39

Chewbacca you expect an awful lot in 15 mins!
It just indicates that rhyming poetry like IF isn't that hard to do.
Apologies Maggiemaybe I had my poet's hat on.

Chewbacca Tue 09-Oct-18 19:12:37

That's a good try too trisher but it doesnt have the flow or cadence that Maw's has.

Maggiemaybe Tue 09-Oct-18 19:08:42

As only around 6 people have been involved..... 10, actually. And yes, I’ve too much time on my hands today. smile

And I’m not Maw.

PECS Tue 09-Oct-18 18:31:43

Most poetry (literature and art) benefits from discussion and analysis! Broadening understanding, challenging initial responses ..it's all good for the brain!

I have appreciated pieces of art work far more when I understood/learned about the context/ artist etc. I might still not want to hang it in my home but I have understood better.

MawBroon Tue 09-Oct-18 18:28:30

Touché grin