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Dawn22 Sun 20-Oct-19 11:46:12

Hi all readers
Yesterday l posted a short version of this in News and Politics under the title of Legal Challenge but got little interest in it so here l go again.

Any private citizen can mount a challenge to the High Court regarding Brexit on the basis that the Government of the day failed utterly to inform and thus educate properly the people of the U.K. on the entire implications/ramifications/fallout of the Brexit picture.

In taking this line a new Referendum can be demanded of the current Government even now at this 11th hour. No point after the 12th hour.

There is a precedent for this. A similar challenge has worked in another jurisdiction. Please Google- The Trinity Lecturer who Took on the EU and Won - a fascinating piece; a history altering article by an Aisling Marren.

If an Irish farmer/lecturer called Raymond Crotty can take on the system then perhaps a courageous person with passion who reads this appeal might be tempted to follow suit.

This would be huge. What l am really saying if any of you know anyone in the UK legal, journalistic or political sphere who would be interested or have the capacity to mount a challenge please show them this.

It is possible. Nothing happens when nothing happens. Something happens when something happens.


Nonnie Sun 20-Oct-19 11:49:09

Gina Miller?

jane1956 Sun 20-Oct-19 12:07:10

just wonder how many referendums you need until you get the result you require?
we had one in 2016 I am sure you remember, not enough remainers got off their bums to vote so leave won. end of.

Dawn22 Sun 20-Oct-19 12:16:00

Thank you Nonnie for helping to start the ball rolling.

Who knows. One can but try.


Septimia Sun 20-Oct-19 12:16:36

Agreed, jane. You can't keep going back until you get the 'right' answer (wish someone would tell Nicola Sturgeon that!).

About the only thing that everyone can agree on is that they're fed up with it all dragging on and politicians representing their own interests, not those of the people.

mcem Sun 20-Oct-19 12:27:43

The "right" answer would be the one with legitimate majority support and that sure ain't the deceitful mess that we're currently facing.
Apparently over 2 million people marched yesterday to make that point.

jane1956 Sun 20-Oct-19 12:29:23

but mcem did they vote in 2016???

Nonnie Sun 20-Oct-19 12:45:41

Of course people with a conscience will 'keep dragging it on', they have to. If you saw someone about to walk in front of a moving vehicle you wouldn't stand back and let them do it. You would do all you could to save them.

Dawn22 Sun 20-Oct-19 12:50:03

Let us have more of "Yes we can" rather than the list of reasons why it cannot be done.

Perhaps amongst other things this is an excercise in saturising oneself in positivity.
The power of belief.

mcem Sun 20-Oct-19 12:58:21

Don't know jane do you?
If they were among the lazy ones who couldn't be bothered to vote then perhaps they've all had an epiphany and would now vote to remain (as they'd be entitled to do!)
Not so lazy or apathetic yesterday, were they?

mcem Sun 20-Oct-19 13:03:05

Saturating yourself in positivity in this situation could be translated into pulling the duvet over your head and singing lalalala.
Surely better to do something than smugly thinking
that "All will be well in the best of all possible worlds!"
when we have no tangible reasons to think so.

yggdrasil Sun 20-Oct-19 13:39:16

I object a lot to the phrase 'end of'. It says the writer is not going to listen to anything they don't want to hear.
And it is not very helpful to those who will be most affected, but didn't have a vote 3 years ago.
Now that the things once dismissed as Project Fear by the Brexiters are coming to pass, everyone should be entitled to change their minds. That is what democracy really means

Calendargirl Sun 20-Oct-19 14:17:08

jane1956 and Septimia


Nonnie Sun 20-Oct-19 17:12:28

Septimia Sun 20-Oct-19 12:16:36 if indeed everyone is fed up of it all the only way to stop it is to revoke A50 as the alternative will be trying to negotiate deals for the rest of my lifetime. I don't agree with simply revoking because that would be unfair on people who genuinely believe we are better off out. I think we should be shown details of the deal and given the opportunity to agree it or remain. It is the only way to repair the damage imo