How do I keep safe when forced to have workmen in home

I'm sure everything will be fine for you.

Mmmm not very reassuring! I feel for you Patsy429. Just hope I wont be feeling the same on Tuesday!

Talking of boilers, we had a new boiler fitted last Tuesday by British Gas. The new system works perfectly, hot water, hot radiators, even have a fancy Hive to use BUT it came with a price - not just the cost of a new boiler which needed scaffolding outside as an upward flue was needed - but the damage the two engineers did is unbelievable.

The one guy put his foot through the loft door and then damaged a radiator valve in the hall so that water spilled everywhere over the wooden floor. It is now warped and will require the whole area to be redone. The other man came back the next day with a piece of wood to replace the loft door, painted it with one coat of paint and said that would be ok. Well, actually, it's not OK. It just looks shoddy and, of course, when you don't want to look up to see the shoddy piece of work what do you do?

When I complained about the floor this same man told me I could claim on my house insurance and was very surprised when I said, no, I would be claiming from British Gas.

The scaffolding was removed quickly the next day but we are still left with the rubbish which was supposed to be collected by another company.

Sorry to go on. I've just looked at the original post about protecting oneself from workmen. By the time I'd finished, these two men were the ones wanting protection.

A very nasty post Phloembundl as someone else has said there are a lot of good men and in my long life I have only come across one workman that I would not recommend.

Eerie. Just noticed an advert offering quotes for new boilers has appeared on this page.

Alexa, do NOT dilute the Methylated spirit or Surgical spirit, it needs to be above at least 60% alcohol, that is also not 60 Proof as 60 Proof is roughly only 30% alcohol. If you spray a surface with full strength, 99.9 % alcohol you should wait for at least 10 seconds before touching the surface, If you use full strength alcohol it will evaporate away and there is therefore no need to wipe it dry.

Please do not use bleach on polished or lacquered furniture - vinegar and water will work as a disinfectant and not damage the furniture.

Air the house well before they come and after they leave.

Ask them to keep the kitchen door closed while they are working in there.

Wow. Thanks for all the suggestions and information.

Vampirequeen,sadly your image is a little faulty, - 50ish overweight bloke of Italian descent, with long black curly hair, and a somewhat callow stepson! However he's been worth his weight in gold over the last 20 years - If I have a problem he turns up within 24 hours. I once left a message on his phone, and a few hours later got a call from someone who said he was contacting me because my bloke was on holiday abroad and had asked him to help as he was also a heating engineer.

And I have some sympathy with what the unspellable/unpronounceable named person says. (Phoeubleam???) Just because of this bloke's personality I think he could be rather casual about precautions, so will be watching. ( I do wish I'd given him a name - can't keep calling him bloke! If needed he is now officially Guiseppe!

Phloembundl You’ve obviously had poor experiences of men to make such a sweeping statement. There are far more good men than bad but the bad ones get the public notoriety. A bit like teenagers! Or mother in laws! Keep an open mind and don’t be influenced by stereotypes, perhaps?

The virus lives on surfaces for more than just a few hours. Explained here - ‘But the NIH study found that the SARS-CoV-2 virus survives for longer on cardboard – up to 24 hours – and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless-steel surfaces.‘
This is part of this article:
www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces

Just another thought. The virus lives on surfaces for around 4 hours. I would leave the cleaning in rooms you dont use until the next day.

You're lucky to have workmen. My brother was having roof repairs done. On Wednesday the men walked away, without any explanation.

I had central heating system put in last week, 3 workmen. Now 2 plasterers are here, finish Tues! I have myself so worked up my sister gave me a good talking to an hour ago. My hands are sore because I am cleaning like mad. I stay in a room away from them, was in garden y'day as it was sunny here in N.Ireland( for a change). Once they leave I'm like a mad bleach woman wherever they have been. Roll on Tues that's all I can say

My husband is a decorator and has been for 48 years. I take offence at the comment about leaving men in the house.
My husband has spent a fortune on industrial wipes and washes his hands many times throughout the day. He is a very tidy hygenic worker. I am aware that being the last one on a job after builders, joiners and electricians that he often has to clean up after them but please don't attack all tradesmen.

ASking someone if they are well, seems ..??

as apparently a person can carry it and not be aware..
so Mybuilder seems to be saying
that if we are self isolating, ie. over 70, if no underlying issues, we still shouldn`t have outside jobs done!

I find it all a little confusing, sorry if anyone thinks I am a twerp!

rowyn - the first thing is to ask them when they arrive at the door is whether they are well. That will signal immediately that you are concerned about the coronavirus transmission. If they are well, then you should ask them to leave their jackets or other outer clothing if they are wearing any, in their vans. The virus can live in nestled clothing. Then you should ask them to wash their hands and provide the necessary soap and kitchen roll for drying. They will probably be wearing gloves but the gloves if put on outside the home can hold any virus they come in contact with.

The act of broaching the coronavirus concern as soon as they arrive will likely bring out a conversation about it and you will learn from that what precautions they are taking.

Thereafter all the cleaning spoken about already on the thread is required.

I have my cleaning lady due to come on Monday and I will be taking all the same precautions. However, I will message her beforehand to emphasise that if she is experiencing any of the symptoms she should not come - and I will still pay her. Like your workmen, she is a trusted person so it's just a question of being hyper-vigilant about our surroundings. Good luck.

The issue of mutual respect is important. They may be afraid of contracting the virus in your home, and vice-versa. But what is really important for you, if you're over 70 or have underlying conditions, is that you make that known, and keep two metres away from them. I would also ask if they are well before they enter the home.

Phloembundl - well that post is a bit anti-men! There are just one or two who are OK you know!

And sometimes workers are women!!

DO NOT go out while they are there, because knowing how selfish men are, they will take the opportunity to behave irresponsibly.

I'm sure you will be fine OP. Just do what others have suggested re cleaning.

It works both ways round of course. One of my family has to visit homes to do repairs. He is worried what he might 'take home' to his own young family. That is always a problem though. He has to visit places he would rather not step in all of the time.

Dettol and similar is somewhat discredited but bleach is good. Surgical or methylated spirit is effective against virus. The thing is to wipe not simply spray it around.

Scald or boil their coffee mugs after they use them. Tell them where to wash and provide a dedicated towel which you wash after they leave at high temperature. Keep six feet away from them at all times.

After they have gone away wipe door handles and kitchen surfaces etc with methylated spirit+ water, surgical spirit + water, or diluted bleach, Or bathroom cleaner or soap and water will do even if it's not 'bactericidal'.

This came through from a site I use. I am sure all in the industry will be receiving similar guidelines. Not sure if rubber gloves would make it difficult for twiddly bits like screws but surgical or disposable might be ok if you have some. The freezing cold nights are probably as dangerous as the virus. At least you know these plumbers so you know that you can trust them:-

MyBuilder’s aim is to help homeowners find great tradespeople, and that hasn’t changed in light of the COVID-19 outbreak. We understand that some jobs, whether it’s fixing a broken boiler or repairing faulty wiring, have to be done as a matter of urgency, and our expert tradespeople around the country are ready to help out.

The experienced tradespeople who use MyBuilder are always safety-conscious, and that’s more important than ever right now. We’re encouraging all our tradespeople to follow government advice, which might mean some changes to how they do things:

• We’ve asked them to get in touch with customers before arriving to make sure you don’t have symptoms or are not self-isolating

• You should maintain distance when in your home, and avoid handshakes and other gestures such as offering drinks

• Tradespeople are being encouraged to regularly wash and sanitise their hands before and after jobs

If you’re experiencing symptoms or self-isolating, then it’s sensible to delay your job if possible and avoid the chance of passing the virus on to a tradesperson. Similarly, we’ve encouraged tradespeople not to work if they’re ill, in line with government advice.

There are plenty of tradespeople on MyBuilder who are ready to answer calls for help, or tackle bigger jobs that will help make your home more comfortable. MyBuilder will be here to help you find the right person for your job, no matter the size or urgency.

workmen? oh gosh so glad you posted this.. I want a little job done in my garden, but ds suggests I shouldn`t have it done yet as I am in the self isolation group...

wow.. that means I could have a job or two outside jobs,, done?

Thanks for the giggle Vampirequeen, much needed at the moment

They reckon the bug lives for about 9 hours on hard surfaces so as long as you don't touch the boiler or pipes until the next day you'll be ok. The only problem area is the thermostat but you can solve that by giving it a quick bleachy wipe over.