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My elderly cat is taking the piss..

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MaryTheBookeeper Mon 29-Jun-20 19:44:33

My boy is nearly 15 years old. He's older now than any other cat I've owned. He now seems to be using his senior years to royally take the piss. All his life he has never, ever jumped on the kitchen worktop or dining table. Now he does many times a day. In fact, thinking about it, I realise this has only started through lockdown. I'm not even sure how he manages it since he's slightly arthritic. I keep the worktops clean & bare so there's nothing up there for him to seek. His food is Hill's Science Diet & he won't touch anything else, not even real chicken & fish. I don't admonish him, just lift him down & say 'no'. Do you have any ideas how I can cure him of this behaviour? I can't lock him out as his catflap is in this room.

Flakesdayout Thu 02-Jul-20 09:30:51

My old lady who died in May at the age of 20 hardly ever got out of her bed in her twilight years but as a younger cat she got everywhere, top of fridge, kitchen wall units and wardrobes. My two boys now like to sit on the table, very rarely have I caught them on the work tops. one will hide when he is scared and it doesn't take much to scare him and we have found him in strange places, under the duvet, behind the recycling bin (under the stairs) on top of wardrobe, once there he couldn't get down and behind the tv in the bedroom. We have used a water spray in the past and this seems to work, even just a shake is enough.

Bluegrass Thu 02-Jul-20 09:38:32

I suggest you save up your empty cans,wash them well then space them roughly 5 inches apart along the edges of the worktops at night. He will be startled and should not want to do it again. We have done this and it works. You can just collect up the cans each morning into a carrier and hang it in a cupboard out of the way. We don't need to do it now. You could also stagger the cans in a tight zig zag so he can't jump over them easily. If he does it in the daytime, I suggest clapping very loudly and raise your voice then swipe him off the worktop. You will not harm him but he'll get the message. Good luck!

creativz Thu 02-Jul-20 09:43:26

Might be worth trying to distract rather than repel, you may both benefit from him having a new scratching device, mine love wicker trays and coir mats, have them dotted around the house and garden, mainly in their favourite sun and shade spots, I also use catnip sprays on them to which they’re very receptive. ?

vickya Thu 02-Jul-20 09:49:17

Apparently cats go up high to see any threats. It makes them feel safer and as they get old and less able to defend themselves they want to be higher. Ours is 13, She has begun screaming for things too now. CLean the litter tray, open the garden door. She has always gone out, come in and THEN poos in the litter tray. A few times recently not in it but next to it sad. And now and then wees next to it too. Anything annoys her, she takes revenge.

vickya Thu 02-Jul-20 09:50:30

She's always gone on worktops too if nobody is around. She also screams for more food in the already supplied dried cat food dish.

jaylucy Thu 02-Jul-20 09:55:14

If there is one particular spot where he jumps up, put something in that spot - I have found that my cat will only jump onto anything from below if she can see a clear landing space (she's been caught out with that a few times!
If he then jumps up somewhere else, move the item from the original place.
Failing that, a tap on the nose often works!

Willow500 Thu 02-Jul-20 09:55:35

All the cats I've had over the years have jumped on the kitchen worktops - in fact the first 3 which were mother, daughter and grandson all had beds on top of the cupboards where they slept every night. I've learned not to leave food out and to clean everything down before doing anything in the kitchen.

Our current two are totally different in nature and the older boy regularly jumps on the windowsill outside and wants to come in the window - despite having a perfectly good cat flap in the utility room! He has also learned that if he sits on the induction hob it beeps so one of us will go in and see what he wants - he only sits on the worktops to keep out of the way of the 'She Devil' who he knows finds it very difficult to jump up there.

The 'She Devil' is now profoundly deaf and has become even more vocal than she always was. When she wants food (which is often like a baby) she makes herself heard loudly during the night but during the day jumps on the desk and sits on the keyboard or mouse and swipes at me with her talons.

PS I love her dearly grin

Phloembundle Thu 02-Jul-20 10:04:00

Cats hate the smell of curry powder. You could dot a tiny bit here and there and see if it deters him, unless of course, you hate the smell too.

slightlyvixed Thu 02-Jul-20 10:06:49

He may need water. Make sure he has enough to drink. I never saw my cats on the kitchen worksurfaces, but there would be cat hairs there some mornings and I guess they were finding traces of water in the sink.

b1zzle Thu 02-Jul-20 10:10:30

What a wonderful thread! As a life-long cat lover, I've really enjoyed reading each and every post. I now have a (nearly) 13-year old British Blue - who has never had a voice but is now trying to scream (in a whisper) when things don't go her way.
Love her to bits.

Twopence Thu 02-Jul-20 10:16:28

I must admit our present cat sleeps on the worktop and adjacent kitchen windowsill on a towel. It is a ritual every evening to clear the windowsill and spread the towel, whilst she waits eagerly to be allowed up. Every morning the first thing is to clear and disinfect the area. She knows that she's not allowed up during the day, though what happens when we are out is anyone's guess.
Our previous old boy used to insist on sleeping on top of the microwave. I wouldn't mind but they've always had a comfy bed available!!!

Lindaloulabel Thu 02-Jul-20 10:26:57

That made me smile Mary I’ve got dogs so never had that problem..... I wouldn’t bother trying to train him now just make sure you wipe everything down before preparing food etc and enjoy his antics remember he won’t be with you forever ??

Petalpop Thu 02-Jul-20 10:30:59

This thread brings tears to my eyes. It reminded me of my beloved Sooty. This was many years ago. She was 18. I had 4 cats at the time and I noticed that one of them was, literally taking the piss on a worktop. I managed to catch her at it so I chased her out and sadly watched her clean the top half of her body. I went out to her and it was evident that the bottom part of her body was soaking. Had to take the awful journey to the vets and was told she had lost all sense and feeling in her lower regions. I always remember as I wept in the vets a big burly man telling me he was a, paramedic and saw some awful things but when he loses a pet he cries his eyes out.

Through the years I have owned 15 cats and at the moment have two young ones. I cannot imagine my life without them. That said keeping them off the worktops is a constant battle not helped when the dog plays chase with them.

Craftycat Thu 02-Jul-20 10:32:52

I have 4 cats now & one is 15. She is a big girl so does not get on counters but I have had cats that did.
I never worried too much as they knew it was wrong & jumped down as soon as I calmly said- Get Down NOW!
To be honest it is the other places they get into that are more of a concern- behind bath panel ( which they have learnt to move), onto roof over front room via our bedroom window, onto top of extension, into neighbours sheds, garages & Guinea Pig shed ( the guinea pigs are very cool about it)
I have never had cats as bold as this lot- they keep us on our toes all the time.
We have a chair by the kitchen counter that they sit on to watch the food being prepared- just like the GC did when they were small!
I keep reminding them they are all rescue cats & they can go back to shelter!! Yeah right- we adore them!

NoddingGanGan Thu 02-Jul-20 11:01:32

Have to laugh at anyone saying, "my cat's not allowed..."
Cats can't be trained. My cat doesn't jump on worktops/tables/sofas/chairs (apart from, "his" chair in each room) when I'm there because he does know he's not supposed to but, left to his own devices and unsupervised, he pleases himself, all cat do grin

Annaram1 Thu 02-Jul-20 11:22:23

So glad I have never had a cat. They sound absolutely ghastly.

On another note, I hate the term "taking the piss." It sounds so vulgar. If you want to use that sort of language, post on Mumsnet.

grandtanteJE65 Thu 02-Jul-20 12:02:03

Put a little saucer of vinegar on the table top. Most cats hate the smell.

I agree he is taking the piss in his old age; mine does it too, he will soon be 13. He knows he can get away with more now, since we lost his brother two years ago.

His latest, as you can see on another thread, is to refuse the cat food he has always loved. He really had me worried, until I realised he had been hunting!

Annaram1 Thu 02-Jul-20 12:13:02

Oh grandtante, I expected better language from you! Go and post on Mumsnet. They like that sort of language. We Grans have been brought up to use better language, surely?

Bijou Thu 02-Jul-20 12:19:39

When food was rationed I saved the sugar and butter to make a birthday cake for my husband. I stupidly left it on the kitchen table only to find that the cat had liked off all the butter icing.
On return from shopping one day found the same cat had walked over absolutely all the furniture even the high cupboards with muddy paws. He was normally not allowed even on the chairs.

Sparklefizz Thu 02-Jul-20 12:28:20

Cats are definitely not "ghastly" *Annaram1. You may not like them personally, but that's just your opinion. Why post on a cat thread just to say that?

As a great cat-lover myself, I have loved reading all these posts and even felt the tears welling up reading Petalpop's sad story. Cats are wonderful loving companions. In my whole life I have only had 6 months without a cat, and my life was definitely emptier. My lovely Phoebe has made my life in isolated lockdown much more bearable, and even fun.

lindiann Thu 02-Jul-20 12:43:00

Mine is the same age and he is taking the piss literally. He has his meal I put him outside and he defiantly goes anywhere any tips to stop him?

lindiann Thu 02-Jul-20 12:45:11

Indoors that is smile

Rowsie Thu 02-Jul-20 14:05:25

As my cats got older they started doing similar things, it was as if they had forgotten the "rules" of the house. Maybe their senior brains do forget? In the end I covered my table with a blanket so that if they did it when I was not in they could lay there comfortably without making a mess. I think he might be too old to re train.

Llamedos13 Thu 02-Jul-20 14:09:18

My daughters dog takes a flying leap onto her kitchen counter!

Would love to know how to stop that bad behaviour.

Annaram1 Thu 02-Jul-20 15:29:03

Sparklefizz, I am sorry but you only have to read most of the posts on this thread to realise that cats are ghastly. They are the very devil. I have looked after my son's cat many times when the family goes on holiday. I sleep in their house. I can hear the catflap opening in the middle of the night and a lot of scuffling and squeaking going on. He has brought in a defenceless little creature and thinks it fun to torture it. If I attempt to rescue it you should hear the cat growling in anger.... I have found bits of creatures all over the house, a dead young rabbit in pieces all over the bathroom and hall, loads of blood, a a dead mouse's entrails and eyes on my son's computer keyboard. How can anyone say they are not ghastly?