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Garden fence, should I? ?

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phoenix Mon 21-Sept-20 18:18:30

Hello all, hope you are safe and well.

The fence between us and next door blew down some years ago, Mr Neighbour offered to put it back up, which was kind of him. smile

However, he is obviously a stranger to a spirit level confused and the fence is not only all over the shop with regard to the "horizontals" but is now leaning quite badly.

We've had a couple of quotes to replace it, and it's looking like well over £800 shock

We really can't fork out that much at the moment, so we're wondering if it would be acceptable to approach neighbours and ask them if they might contribute to the cost, as a new fence would benefit them as much as us.

Generally we get on well, but Mrs Neighbour can be a bit "prickly" blush

They are younger than us, both work full time, and have no mortgage. I'm down to 2 days a week, Mr P has gone to around half his previous income, and we still have a mortgage sad

What are your thoughts?

Thank you.

Davidhs Tue 22-Sept-20 21:29:27

Going back to the original post.

In the U.K. fences generally belong to one side or the other unless an agreement defines joint ownership. For practical reasons joint ownership causes problems because it is difficult to force the other side to pay if they don’t want to.

Defining property boundaries clearly is every owners responsibility to stop neighbors claiming it as theirs, particularly for older properties. Older properties often are not registered and rely on old plans which are often wrong, so get it registered and mark boundaries. A fence, a hedge or a line of trees

Neighbors moving boundaries is common, and once they register it as theirs it’s gone!.

Callistemon Tue 22-Sept-20 21:15:43

I will now return to the news and Politics section as you request Callistemon

I'll look forward to reading your informative posts over on N&P, Grandad

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 21:01:13

Oh Grandad1943, please dotry to get your facts right, there's a dear! It wasn't my thread that had posts deleted, it was posts I had made on someone else's thread.

Tsk, not like you to be so inaccurate, I've often thought you keep some sort of record of posts, as you once referred back to one of mine from months ago.

Grandad1943 Tue 22-Sept-20 20:49:39

Deleted because it repeats a previously deleted post.

Grandad1943 Tue 22-Sept-20 20:48:40

Callistemon, contrary to your above posts I rarely "pop up" on Phonenix threads.

Indeed only yesterday a Phoenix thread had at least two posts deleted without any involvement of myself. So, obviously not all forum members "enjoy" Phoenix "quirky" threads.

I will now return to the news and Politics section as you request Callistemon

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 20:43:44

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 20:41:55

Really? I would have thought it was pretty obvious!

However, if other posters don't get my meaning, then I will be happy to explain.

Grandad1943 Tue 22-Sept-20 20:33:10

phoenix

Just to add, Grandad1943 you have added another thing to be thankful for to my list, one being that I'm so glad we are not governed by Donald Trump, and the other that you are not my neighbour, and to save you the bother, yes, I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

Will that suit you, or do you want to have another dig?

Phoenix, Donald Trump and such, I really do not know what you are talking about in the above post???????

Callistemon Tue 22-Sept-20 19:52:36

In other words, why not stick to your natural home, Grandad, giving of your considerable experience on the political threads?

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 19:52:00

Just to add, Grandad1943 you have added another thing to be thankful for to my list, one being that I'm so glad we are not governed by Donald Trump, and the other that you are not my neighbour, and to save you the bother, yes, I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

Will that suit you, or do you want to have another dig?

Callistemon Tue 22-Sept-20 19:50:34

Grandad you always seem to pop up on Phoenix's threads, ready to criticise and condemn.

We enjoy her quirky views on life, especially at the moment.

We have read threads about people in your office, especially about a young man who came to work dressed in an inappropriate t shirt and jeans, easily identifiable if anyone cared to bother, and how you managed to get rid of him. Might I suggest, therefore, that you are in no position to criticise phoenix's lighthearted remarks.

It used to be another poster's turn to be targeted and I have noticed that she rarely posts any more even though GN is, I think, a lifeline for her.
Now it seems to be Phoenix's.

If this post is deleted I care not a toot.

Chewbacca Tue 22-Sept-20 19:47:35

Surely this is a situational and financial matter that should have been spoken in regard of between the two parties involved and never brought on to a forum such as this for open discussion.

I'm not sure what your problem with the OP is Grandad but if we were all to follow your advice and not discuss anything on this forum that has been between 2 parties, there would be no discussions at all and probably no GN either! Give the OP a break; she's said nothing unpleasant about her neighbours but you seem to be oddly insistent on making this as contentious as possible for some reason.

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 19:43:21

Oh Grandad1943 find something else to do rather than over analyse my posts!

Grandad1943 Tue 22-Sept-20 19:38:53

We've deleted this post because we don't feel it is very kind towards another poster and not in keeping with the spirit of Gransnet.

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 19:28:40

Farnorth the fence blew over in some very strong winds, Mr P was working away, and the neighbours were worried about their 3 large dogs going awol!

PamelaJ1 Tue 22-Sept-20 18:41:35

Whenever I’ve bought a house I have always found out whose fence belongs to who.
If it’s my fence, boundary hedge, whatever then it’s up to me (well us!, mainly him) to look after it.
It wouldn’t occur to me to ask our neighbour to help. We even cut our hedge on both sides. The neighbour has never offered to get out their hedge cutter but is happy for us to do the job.

Good luck phoenix, if you don’t ask you don’t get.

Summerlove Tue 22-Sept-20 18:26:18

So is it your fence then pheonix?
Rather than as you stated earlier planting a seed, I would just be direct and ask them. Good luck.

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 18:16:41

Thank you Lucca

Merlot Mr is a lovely chap, but really only interested in things mechanical ?, Mrs is more keen on how the garden looks ,had it landscaped late last year, lots of hard paving, as they want a low maintenance garden, but have planted bee friendly plants in the border, smileand some fruit trees, one of which will suffer if the fence does go over.

Farnorth We have spoken to our local chap, he thinks some of it might be salvegable, but would still be fairly expensive to sort. I will of course talk to them, as what we do with the fence also affects the look of their garden.

FarNorth Tue 22-Sept-20 18:11:30

Why did Mr Neighbour offer to fix the fence?
Was it because it was falling down and it looked like nothing was going to be done about it?
Was it because you were having a chat with the neighbours and mentioned that you couldn't afford to fix it at the moment?
Or?

Perhaps the neighbours feel that they've done their bit to be helpful and any further improvements are up to you.

FarNorth Tue 22-Sept-20 17:55:57

Have a chat with them about how to sort out the leaning of the fence.

Maybe a local handy-person could improve the situation without spending a lot of money and without offending the neighbours.

Callistemon Tue 22-Sept-20 17:52:26

mentioned that Mrs can be a bit "prickly" and wears the trousers

shock
Misogyny to add to your misdemeanours, phoenix!

merlotgran Tue 22-Sept-20 17:48:58

Has Mr. Neighbour suggested that the fence needs replacing, phoenix?

Lucca Tue 22-Sept-20 17:47:05

Exactly Phoenix.

Lucca Tue 22-Sept-20 17:46:18

Oh misandry again of course.

phoenix Tue 22-Sept-20 17:45:14

Grandad1943, so where exactly did I "slag off" my neighbours?

I said that I appreciated the chaps help, (and thanked him at the time for doing it) but that the fence was less than level, I mentioned that Mrs can be a bit "prickly" and wears the trousers, she herself would be the first to admit that.

During lockdown, we picked up shopping for each other, shared any excess (On a couple of occasions, Mr P bought more salad than we could eat, so I messaged her to check that she could use it, then left it on the doorstep).

No "slagging off" in any of my posts on this thread.