Woman

Chaucer is the latest to be outed as a racist. and mysoginist.

I suppose they have done for Shakespeare, so he was bound to be 'cancelled'. I really cannot understand why they have left Byron and Shelley out of all these cancellations, they broke every rule in the bokk left right and centre. Byron was aworld class womaniser and is said to have had a sexual relationship with his half sister.

What do you see as 'politically incorrect', Pammiel? Pregnant women wanting to be called 'people' rather than female, or people objecting to the use of the term?

I’ve thought for a long time that if you look hard enough for something, you’ll find a reasons to find it, if you see what I mean. There is seemingly racism, sexism and countless other ‘isms’ everywhere - things I would never have dreamed of associating with being racist or sexist, are suddenly politically incorrect. It’s going to be a sad, anxious and humourless world soon.

Not again

Yup, again. Do you have a problem with the subject being discussed? If so, why?

I despair of how our world is pandering to the ‘few’.

I read the other day using cutlery was seen as being racist.

It’s a mad sad world. The time will come when there will be a knock on my door by the Woke Police.

I had a bone density scan the other week and had a form to fill in beforehand. When I arrived for my appointment the radiologist advised that I needed to complete the section I’d left blank, as it was headed To be completed only by people with reproductive capacity. Being incapable of reproduction for at least the last 10 years I didn’t think it applied to me, but apparently the hospital is no longer allowed to say To be completed by women only. I was told I’m far from the only one to have been thrown by this apparent attempt to erase post-menopausal women from the population.

The patriarchy strikes back.

Can we use 'Man' any longer or is this another example of this word being the name of a gender.

It’s very concerning that a small minority can have such influence on the rest of society. I’ve just seen a thread on another site where a woman was pulled to pieces for daring to suggest that she couldn’t fathom out what ‘tampons’ for transgender men were actually used for, and for venturing the opinion that it was unfair to allow a transgender man to compete in the Olympic women’s weightlifting team. On the subject of the latter, I read an article on this before the Olympics started and it would appear that other female contenders’ protests were dismissed out of hand - branded as ‘privileged’. I’m all for freedom of expression but is this really the way to achieve it ?

Ah but you see now that some women identify as men, their feelings automatically become more important than women's feelings.

I don't mind being female, a woman, a lady, a Miss, a Mrs, the wife or a person. They're a lot nicer than a lot of things I've been called in my life.

Hithere

Not again

Do you mean 'not again' in response to the fact that this issue has reared its head another time, or to the fact that people are discussing it on this forum?

It's impossible to tell from your post, but if you don't think that the topic is worthy of discussion, why is that? Or alternatively, if you don't think we should discuss it on here, why not?

Doodledog

It’s ridiculous, but yet another example of the erasure of women. Or erasure of generally accepted terminology in favour of a tiny but vocal minority.

In case anyone is scratching their head wondering why anyone would want to use the term ‘pregnant people’ when clearly it is only people of the female sex who can get pregnant, it is to protect the sensitivities of pregnant women who identify as male.

I see no reason why midwives shouldn’t call transmen ‘people’ or ‘parents’ (on the rare occasions when midwives are likely to encounter people in this situation) but to change vocabulary for the rest of the population is a step too far.

Hear hear.????

Well said GG13 and lovebeigecardigan1955!

The term is being used to include transmen not transwomen. So those who are of the female sex but identify as Male.

Quite so Doodlebug a male who identifies as a woman and is pregnant is a rare beast indeed.

A vociferous minority who are very aggressive and losing sympathy for their cause.

Because women are allowed a word to describe the class/group to which they belong. As are gay men, etc etc.

But I'm a person and a woman.
I don't feel excluded (though not pregnant at my age thank goodness!).

I don't see why women would feel excluded?

Mollygo

GG13
Females/Women get pregnant, carry the child and give birth, not people.
Perhaps we need to use Lina Lamont’s words from Singing in the Rain, where she says, “I ain’t people! ”

I just get extremely peeved and frustrated that women have continually had to fight for recognition, votes etc only for a minority section of the population to erase words associated with the Female Gender!!!!

Sorry if women discussing the reason for their oppression upsets you.

GG13
Females/Women get pregnant, carry the child and give birth, not people.
Perhaps we need to use Lina Lamont’s words from Singing in the Rain, where she says, “I ain’t people! ”

Not again

GagaJo

And off we go on another trans exclusionary thread...

Inclusion of trans folks should not be at the exclusion of women

Females/Women get pregnant, carry the child and give birth, not people

Just keep fighting against this twaddle ?

Scottish Government have been blasted for saying pregnant people should have Covid vaccine. Because of saying people not to do with the vaccine.