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Chestnut Tue 22-Feb-22 08:22:29

With all these storms we're having, and extreme weather forecasted for the future, do you have any large trees nearby that you worry about?

There are two very large trees quite close to our house, and I worry they could land on my bedrooms which are on that side of the house. When I say large I mean enormous. One is a fir/evergreen on our property and the other a giant beech tree belonging to next door. If one of them came down in the night I would probably be killed.

Lovely as they are, I don't feel that trees that size should be that close to a house, but of course they just grow over the years and no-one really notices or stops them.

So do you have any large trees you worry about, and what can be done? Should we plan for stormy weather in the future and cut them down or am I just being a worrier?

AreWeThereYet Tue 22-Feb-22 14:40:53

We have huge trees all down one side of the house in the next garden, and a large oak tree at either end covered by TPOs. We have those cut back slightly every five years or so. They are all very large now and it is slightly scary - if the one in the front came down overnight it would probably kill us. They are all healthy though and less than 80 years old so I expect they will be there long after us. Every year we fill about 30 black bags with leaves through the autumn. When those have nearly gonr the garden waste bin is filled up every two weeks for about 3 months with acorns.

BBbevan Tue 22-Feb-22 14:43:25

Just looked at our insurance. We are covered in ‘storm’ for falling trees . But not if we cut off a branch ourselves and it falls through the conservatory roof e.g.
Nice to know.

Visgir1 Tue 22-Feb-22 14:59:49

We had x2 Oak trees felled which were causing problems with out house. One was over 150 yrs old other 50 yrs.
Long and the short of it the 50 Yr old tree on bridle path was at back of our house , the older one on Council field next to our house. Beautiful trees but over the years, they caused us lots of grief. We had paid for the younger one to be lopped twice after gaining permission by the council (even though no one claimed the bridle path) and I managed to get them to cut some of the big tree, Trees do need to looked after. The area did have TPO's but for a set number, more trees than the set number so no one could determine which ones.

Our house build in 1980's has a reasonable size garden, we think planners forget Trees grow!
We ended up having serious cracks with some subsidence.

We contacted our Insurance company they had to monitor for movement which took about 2 years plus they found Root DNA under areas of the house to identify the guilty trees.
Due to the changes in the Law regarding Trees near housing they could fell these trees, or if the council refused permission, the Insurance company can sue the Council.

They had to come down. It was sad but it was as if a light bulb had turned on in the garden.

Esspee Tue 22-Feb-22 15:07:39

Chestnut. Time to get the tree in your garden cut down before the birds start nesting then you can explain to your neighbour why you have done it and give them the number of your tree feller.
Your house insurance is not valid against tree damage if your tree is close to the house.

Georgesgran Tue 22-Feb-22 15:14:06

I second what Esspee says and another point is that when the sap rises, the tree will be much heavier and more difficult to manage.

AGAA4 Tue 22-Feb-22 15:25:47

Yesterday a tree fell into the car park thankfully missing my car. It has been taken away now and we have someone coming to check on all the other large trees. I hope we don't have to lose any more.

BBbevan Tue 22-Feb-22 16:05:35

Not so Espee. Our insurance specifies all damage from all trees. Ours, theirs, near the house or not. DH has just rung them as we are due to renew next month. Also all sewers, on our land or not.

grandtanteJE65 Wed 23-Feb-22 12:45:12

I suggest you contact your town council first and check that you may fell the tree, as I gather there are restrictions in the UK about this.

Then phone a firm of professional tree cutters and get an estimate. Ask whether they know of anyone who will buy the felled tree from you. Wood is after all valuable and you may be able to recoup some of the price of having the tree felled.

The firm should also be able to tell you whether you are correct in asssuming that a tree that size so near your house consitutes a danger.

Remember too that the roots may be damaging the founds of the house.

In your place, I would mention to my neighbour that I was considering having the fir tree felled and ask whether he is concerned about his tree. He might be happy to get an estimate for having it felled too. As far as timber prices go, his beech tree is more valuable then your fir as timber.

nipsmum Wed 23-Feb-22 12:50:29

Yes I do worry about trees near my home. (Council owned). I have at least 5 all approx 50 feet high growing either in the shared garden area or the woodland ,which is part of the local park,. The city council won't do anything about them because they grow more than 10 feet from the house. In the last storm a few months ago 3 came down at once in the adjacent woodland and several more lost large branches. The council will eventually remove the branches that fall in the garden area but will do nothing about the very large old trees.

missdeke Wed 23-Feb-22 13:08:26

I worried about one in my neighbour's garden, an enormous fir tree. It swayed so much one night I slept in the spare room at the other side of the house. I reported it to the housing association who sent somebody to look at it and it was immediately cut down as it was so dangerous.

She also has a field maple in the garden which blocked all the light in my garden on the kitchen side (my garden is sort but wide). I didn't want to bother her as she is in her 90s but as soon as I mentioned it to her she had it topped out so instead of 40 feet tall it is now about 15 feet tall. It still casts a lot of shade but at least I get some sun in the kitchen now. Definitely worth talking to neighbours if you have a problem rather than sitting and stewing about it.

Alioop Wed 23-Feb-22 13:11:24

One of my neighbours have a huge fir tree in their back garden. We are all bungalows and it towers way above us. The people who have it must not get any light at all in the back of their home where it is, I'd have it gone. If it ever did come down I'm sure it would wipe out 6 bungalows with it, mine included.

Mumi Wed 23-Feb-22 13:19:59

Yes I worry that there are too few trees in this country. They help to regulate our planet's health and filter out pollutants. I'm starting to think I'd rather see trees than people - although this might be just that I'm feeling depressed from recent news.

Callistemon21 Wed 23-Feb-22 13:28:54

Mumi

Yes I worry that there are too few trees in this country. They help to regulate our planet's health and filter out pollutants. I'm starting to think I'd rather see trees than people - although this might be just that I'm feeling depressed from recent news.

The problem is that some trees are in the wrong place.

Perhaps if someone has a tree chopped down for any reason than disease, the cost should include enough to plant another five somewhere more suitable.

If there were more trees along riverbanks it could help alleviate flooding.

J52 Wed 23-Feb-22 13:52:25

We’ve had a lot of large trees in all the gardens we’ve owned, and have followed the advice given above by previous posters, so not going to repeat it.
But, please do not attempt to kill a tree by putting nails in it, as suggested, or using any sort of poison. Apart from the environmental damage, you may start the tree rotting from the inside and then it will fall, possibly on you.

rowyn Wed 23-Feb-22 13:54:42

Yes, I have 2 enormous conifers both much taller than the house. I've lived in this house for nearly 30 years, and had them pruned once. I was saving up to have them pruned again, but the money had to go elsewhere, so I had all appendages crossed when Eunice threatened. Fortunately they are still standing.
Insurance companies all ask if there are any tall trees within a certain distance of the house, - can't remember exactly what - and I've always been able to say yes - just. Now I'm worrying that I won't be covered because of the height. No one has mentioned the cost of having a very large tree felled - am dreading the answer, but would be interested to hear.

Fashionista1 Wed 23-Feb-22 13:56:03

We had an enormous Cedar tree in our garden 9 meters from our house. It was always shedding branches, cones and needles as well as making our house dark. It had a preservation order on it which means you can't cut or fell it without Council permission. I applied to the council to have it removed because I thought it was too close to the house. We were told to get an arbourist's opinion on it's condition and proximity, then get them to fill in the application forms for the removal of the tree for Council approval. It stayed on their public website for 6 weeks after which permission was granted. The arbourist removed the tree shortly afterwards. I am so relieved and we are now able to enjoy our garden. We did plant another small tree in it's place.

greenlady102 Wed 23-Feb-22 13:59:19

Nope. My own trees all have TPO's on and I get a firm in the check them regularly (about every 4 years). My only other neighbour who has trees (my garden backs onto seven others) does the same and had a dangerous tree taken out a couple of years ago.

greenlady102 Wed 23-Feb-22 14:00:09

rowyn

Yes, I have 2 enormous conifers both much taller than the house. I've lived in this house for nearly 30 years, and had them pruned once. I was saving up to have them pruned again, but the money had to go elsewhere, so I had all appendages crossed when Eunice threatened. Fortunately they are still standing.
Insurance companies all ask if there are any tall trees within a certain distance of the house, - can't remember exactly what - and I've always been able to say yes - just. Now I'm worrying that I won't be covered because of the height. No one has mentioned the cost of having a very large tree felled - am dreading the answer, but would be interested to hear.

they don't all ask, mine didn't.

J52 Wed 23-Feb-22 14:01:51

rowyn

Yes, I have 2 enormous conifers both much taller than the house. I've lived in this house for nearly 30 years, and had them pruned once. I was saving up to have them pruned again, but the money had to go elsewhere, so I had all appendages crossed when Eunice threatened. Fortunately they are still standing.
Insurance companies all ask if there are any tall trees within a certain distance of the house, - can't remember exactly what - and I've always been able to say yes - just. Now I'm worrying that I won't be covered because of the height. No one has mentioned the cost of having a very large tree felled - am dreading the answer, but would be interested to hear.

This year we’ve had two large conifers felled and a 35ft eucalyptus. The biggest conifer was £600 and the smaller plus the eucalyptus £1200. That included removing all the debris, but not the stumps. They also cut the main Eucalyptus trunks into logs so we could season them for our fire.

greenlady102 Wed 23-Feb-22 14:02:50

Callistemon21

Mumi

Yes I worry that there are too few trees in this country. They help to regulate our planet's health and filter out pollutants. I'm starting to think I'd rather see trees than people - although this might be just that I'm feeling depressed from recent news.

The problem is that some trees are in the wrong place.

Perhaps if someone has a tree chopped down for any reason than disease, the cost should include enough to plant another five somewhere more suitable.

If there were more trees along riverbanks it could help alleviate flooding.

my TPO'd trees predate the building of the houses. I have had permission to remove 6 over the time we have lived here and every time I have been required to replace the trees (4 oaks, a wild cherry and a HUGE apple tree) with more suitable species from a list I was given to choose from

greenlady102 Wed 23-Feb-22 14:04:45

Esspee

*Chestnut*. Time to get the tree in your garden cut down before the birds start nesting then you can explain to your neighbour why you have done it and give them the number of your tree feller.
Your house insurance is not valid against tree damage if your tree is close to the house.

yes it can be. Mine is. The only exception is third party damamge where its my tree and I haven't take due care of it.

greenlady102 Wed 23-Feb-22 14:31:34

Visgir1

We had x2 Oak trees felled which were causing problems with out house. One was over 150 yrs old other 50 yrs.
Long and the short of it the 50 Yr old tree on bridle path was at back of our house , the older one on Council field next to our house. Beautiful trees but over the years, they caused us lots of grief. We had paid for the younger one to be lopped twice after gaining permission by the council (even though no one claimed the bridle path) and I managed to get them to cut some of the big tree, Trees do need to looked after. The area did have TPO's but for a set number, more trees than the set number so no one could determine which ones.

Our house build in 1980's has a reasonable size garden, we think planners forget Trees grow!
We ended up having serious cracks with some subsidence.

We contacted our Insurance company they had to monitor for movement which took about 2 years plus they found Root DNA under areas of the house to identify the guilty trees.
Due to the changes in the Law regarding Trees near housing they could fell these trees, or if the council refused permission, the Insurance company can sue the Council.

They had to come down. It was sad but it was as if a light bulb had turned on in the garden.

yes this was what my neighbour did.

greenlady102 Wed 23-Feb-22 14:33:02

Alioop

One of my neighbours have a huge fir tree in their back garden. We are all bungalows and it towers way above us. The people who have it must not get any light at all in the back of their home where it is, I'd have it gone. If it ever did come down I'm sure it would wipe out 6 bungalows with it, mine included.

have you spoken to them about the damage risk and their responsibility?

rowyn Wed 23-Feb-22 14:43:52

Thanks Greenlady and J52

icanhandthemback Wed 23-Feb-22 15:09:53

We have a Holme Oak and if it fell towards the house, we would probably have a big problem. It also sheds all year round and leaves a sticky mess on the roofs of our cars. We would be happy to say goodbye to it but the council would disagree. When we had building work done, we were only allowed to prune it to a certain extent. We have to make sure that we take out dead wood and rotten branches to protect our cars.
As far as I understand it, conifers are more likely to be allowed to be felled as they are, by comparison to oaks, etc., much faster growing and they are not usually part of our natural heritage. My neighbours moved in and took down about 10 of them with nobody saying a word. Suddenly we had light!