Cost of Jubilee

I cannot remember there ever being such polarisation over a royal event so this has everything to do with the cost of living crisis. OakDryad Thu 02-Jun-22 18:30:33

I don't agree. I also bet those waving the poverty flag are rarely those suffering themselves. I think it is a Brexit leftover. All those folks who just wanted to argue for the sake of thinking they are cleverer than they are, are still trying to "win" another argument. Everyone else is getting on and enjoying themselves. Do you really think they will listen to the Jubilee Grinches? The Grinches will generally just talk to one another and enjoy their misery.

This tells me it's time to stop indulging people and allowing them to think their opinion matters to anyone but themselves. This is one of those times when I wish I could "ignore" a whole thread.

nadateturbe

^If you bothered to watch any of the coverage you would have seen for yourself today that it has cheered an awful lot of people up.^

For a very short time. As I said their problems will still be there tomorrow.

So no fun for a few days?

Not having theses celebrations would not mean that the poorest in society would be less poor.

I cannot remember there ever being such polarisation over a royal event so this has everything to do with the cost of living crisis. I am not a royalist by any stretch of the imagination but I am happy to accept the BBC’s More or Less explanation that taxpayer expenditure on the Jubilee has cost every household something between £1 and £2.50. Considering the Office for Budget Responsibility have estimated that Brexit is costing every person £1200 (so far) the cost of the Jubilee is piddly. More worrying is the GDP loss for the four day holiday estimated at £2.5bn but again Brexit GDP loss is running at around £200bn.

There are lot of things classed as entertainment that I am not interested in but I still have to pay taxes towards. It costs £8million a year to police football matches in London alone, paid for out of the public purse. I watched cat kicker Kurt Zouma being surrounded by police as he left court. Again paid for by taxpayers.

I met a friend for lunch today. A small family-run village cafe which just happened to be in the flight path of the vintage planes and Red Arrows heading for London. A big crowd on the village green to watch this and many came to spend money in the cafe afterwards. We eat there often but I have never seen it so busy which was great for the owners. .. although not great for us as they ran out of cake!

A day of celebrations might lift folk for one day, but their financial problems will still be there tomorrow.

And cancel Christmas, while you’re about it!

nadateturbe

^If you bothered to watch any of the coverage you would have seen for yourself today that it has cheered an awful lot of people up.^

For a very short time. As I said their problems will still be there tomorrow.

and ... Do you think you making that remark puts people in any better position by reminding them on a day they could well be getting a break from their worries?

Our town was full of good humoured people today. People spending money in the local businesses that have struggled for the last two years. The market traders were doing a thriving trade. Many enjoyed themselves listening to a brass band, sat by the bandstand at the river side which wouldn't cost them anything. Why do you want to make them feel down and depressed?

If you bothered to watch any of the coverage you would have seen for yourself today that it has cheered an awful lot of people up.

For a very short time. As I said their problems will still be there tomorrow.

There are communities all over the country having a good get together. Those who don't want to enjoy it will, no doubt, be enjoying bringing everyone else down. That seems to be their raison d'être.

buffyfly9

I'm with you Grany and an earlier post about waiting for a biopsy result that would take longer because of another bank holiday. What is the matter with this country?? On the one hand we have poverty, food banks, hungry children, massive backlog of people waiting for NHS treatments and a useless verging on criminal government, on the other we have a woman who has never even run her own bath standing on a balcony overseeing a massive waste of money and a sycophantic public for whom this is a good excuse to eat and drink the Jubilee marketing tat. It is patronising in the extreme to be told that this farce will cheer us all up after the pandemic. It's akin to "let them eat cake" !!

If you bothered to watch any of the coverage you would have seen for yourself today that it has cheered an awful lot of people up.

London is heaving, it is looking splendid, tills are ringing, children are laughing, the sun is shining.

Schools have been having Jubilee themed lunches, tea parties, red/white/blue dress up days. Neighbours and families are getting together.

After two years of Covid, this is a fabulous boost to the U.K., to the economy and to a lot of peoples well being.

nadateturbe

Great post buffyfly9.

Agree

Actually France had the longest ever reigning monarch - I think it was Louis X1V(?) So Liz has only to hang on about 3 more years to get that record.

Luckygirl3

I too find the idea that national celebrations should include weapons of war and gun salutes more than weird - a bit sick really!

I agree! Quite baffling, and not even good to look at. What could be uglier than a bomber?

I quite enjoy the toy soldiers in their red tunics and bearskins, but I know that’s hypocritical of me.

I wonder why people assume “ other countries look in envy” at the jubilee, monarchy etc. Ok they like to have a gawp and print stuff in the likes of Hello magazine along with stories about the Princesses of Monaco, the Beckenham etc but if they really were that envious they’d just copy it. France has a pretty spectacular display at their Presidential swearing in or whatever they call it, it was on our TV news . Our TV had live coverage of the US presidents inauguration, I watched Obamas one, but just out of interest not out of “envy”.

Thanks nadateturbe! I liked yours as well.

We bought a full size Union Flag fro the VE celebrations plus some bunting; all this was put safely away and is now out of storage and trimming up our front garden etc.

However, bunting is so cheap and easy to make I would have simply made some had I not already got enough; I was also happy to make some for the neighbours but sadly everyone wants something for nothing these days and they weren't prepared to pay for the actual fabric even though I said I wouldn't charge for my time. Sorry folks, I aim not bank rolling anyone!

Great post buffyfly9.

Two of the biggest French TV channels bought the rights for the whole 4 hours with no advertising. Other counties look on in envy at the continuity of the Queen in the UK.

I'm with you Grany and an earlier post about waiting for a biopsy result that would take longer because of another bank holiday. What is the matter with this country?? On the one hand we have poverty, food banks, hungry children, massive backlog of people waiting for NHS treatments and a useless verging on criminal government, on the other we have a woman who has never even run her own bath standing on a balcony overseeing a massive waste of money and a sycophantic public for whom this is a good excuse to eat and drink the Jubilee marketing tat. It is patronising in the extreme to be told that this farce will cheer us all up after the pandemic. It's akin to "let them eat cake" !!

M0nica

volver glad you had a lovely morning, but what has the quote above it got to do with it?

The post it was taken from made no mention of the jubilee nor did it refer to it. it was a response to another post where someone expressed some shocking right wing views to any reduction of time spent by workers other than in endless unremitting labour.

Grany's last post was mainly about helicopters and avoiding environmental duties, and the one before that was about a republican country and how it celebrates, and you compared her to an extreme right winger who doesn't want people to enjoy themselves.

Not only is that a non sequitur, but I was showing that you can have a lovely time without long-living queens.

£1.00 per head of population.

£67m that could be put to better use.

A day of celebrations might lift folk for one day, but their financial problems will still be there tomorrow.

Most of the community decorations in many villages have been used and re used a few times already. If new has been purchased , it will no doubt be stored away for the next celebration or big village event.
I think that we have all become so insular since Covid, that it's a great chance to get out and meet either people that you haven't seen since before or new people to get to know.
After all, if it was your granny's big birthday / anniversary, would you be sitting on your hands , grumbling about the cost of everything ?
I guess you didn't see the time when people have been interviewed from the Mall and how many people were visitors from overseas? I assume that they will be spending while they are here and possibly supporting UK businesses?

volver glad you had a lovely morning, but what has the quote above it got to do with it?

The post it was taken from made no mention of the jubilee nor did it refer to it. it was a response to another post where someone expressed some shocking right wing views to any reduction of time spent by workers other than in endless unremitting labour.

Happiness?, laughter? and pleasure? a waste of time that takes people away from the great purpose in life; to work and toil unremittingly and earn money for other people.

We just had a lovely happy and pleasant morning involving being in our fabulous landscape. We laughed a lot eating ice cream outside and I found out about a local from this area who won the VC saving men from a fishing boat during WW1.

No Queens in sight. It was grand.

I too find the idea that national celebrations should include weapons of war and gun salutes more than weird - a bit sick really!

Grany. There is more to life than money and materialism. I am sure the CBI could make an economic argument for us all working 24/7/365(6) by pointing out the value of theproducttivity because we do not work like that.

I have just been seeing all the people around Buckingham Palace to day, I have a leaflet telling me everything that is going on in my village and trying to decide which to support and which to miss.

The roads are full of cars, forgetting the environment issues, the duty going to the treasury from all that fuel consumed is large. Shops are open and selling barbecue food as if it is going out of fashion.

Your estimates of the cost of the Jubilee are exagerated. As other people have said, if you listen to the programme 'More or Less', on R4 this week, still available as a pod cast, you will find that the actual cost is about £1.00 per head of population.

I never thought of you as a right-wing Conservative supporter of the most extreme kind, but in your last post, your mask has slipped and we see the real you, a female equivalent of Mr Gradgrind, Scrooge and Malvolio all rolled.
into one. 'Christmas? bah humbug', 'no more cakes and ale'
And Mr Gradgrind? His name is now used generically to refer to someone who is hard and only concerned with cold facts and numbers.

Happiness?, laughter? and pleasure? a waste of time that takes people away from the great purpose in life; to work and toil unremittingly and earn money for other people.

I'm guessing that the events will bring in money to the country and boost tourism - all to the good.

I am no royalist but am going to join in the village celebrations simply because they will be lots of fun.