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Cost of Jubilee

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Newquay Wed 01-Jun-22 18:32:21

Regardless of being monarchist or republican, in these hard times who is paying for all the expense of decorations etc?
Most councils are really struggling, as are many folk.
The extravagant celebrations don’t sit well with me.
I DO hope HM has contributed-massively out of her vast wealth

BlueSky Thu 02-Jun-22 11:11:11

Calendargirl
‘I believe she has given up alcohol, for health reasons.’
Oh no that’s a shame at her age!

Grany Thu 02-Jun-22 10:34:05

Jets helicopters cause most polluting

Grany Thu 02-Jun-22 10:32:57

What about all the Jets and Helicopters RF fly around in causing the coast of most pollution?

And lobbied several times Scottish government to exempt from environmental laws?

What about burning land for grouse shooting instead of rewilding which would benefit environment?

The richest 1% are the worst polluters

Are RF Climate change hypocrites?

Just asking

Grany Thu 02-Jun-22 10:24:35

Jubilee It's all propaganda PR for RF

Calendargirl Thu 02-Jun-22 10:18:15

BlueSky

Athrawes

I do wonder if the RF actually want such an event but feel obliged because it is 'expected of them'.

Good point. I believe HM would much rather be sipping her Dubonnet and gin tipple than taking part in all the celebrations! wink

I believe she has given up alcohol, for health reasons.

Farzanah Thu 02-Jun-22 10:06:45

The biggest benefactors of the celebrations are the government, so I guess any expense is worth it.
Bread and Circuses springs to mind.

BlueSky Thu 02-Jun-22 10:05:08

Athrawes

I do wonder if the RF actually want such an event but feel obliged because it is 'expected of them'.

Good point. I believe HM would much rather be sipping her Dubonnet and gin tipple than taking part in all the celebrations! wink

Athrawes Thu 02-Jun-22 09:59:16

I do wonder if the RF actually want such an event but feel obliged because it is 'expected of them'.

eazybee Thu 02-Jun-22 09:42:41

Yes, and successive Italian governments are so wonderful, aren't they?

Grany Thu 02-Jun-22 09:36:19

Italy celebrates Festa della Repubblica, Italy's Republic Day, with a national public holiday on Thursday 2 June 2022.

This year marks the 76th edition of the annual event which commemorates the day in 1946 when Italians voted in favour of a republic and against the monarchy which had been discredited during world war two.

Anniebach Thu 02-Jun-22 09:28:37

We should stop bank holidays ?

henetha Thu 02-Jun-22 09:28:29

Many people will still enjoy it though. smile

Grany Thu 02-Jun-22 09:19:46

A 2012 study by the Centre for Economics and Business Research think tank, it estimated that each bank holiday costs the British economy £2.3billion through lost productivity.

In fact, the Queen's Diamond Jubilee in 2012 was believed to have cost up to £3.6billion. With record-breaking inflation also hitting Brits this year, the loss in revenue is likely to be significantly more.

So no, the Jubilee is not profitable. No one, except the Royal Family, will benefit from the celebrations. In many ways, it is just a slap in the face to struggling Brits who are barely getting by.

M0nica Thu 02-Jun-22 09:11:05

Extra spending boosts the Treasury coffers as every extra item bought will include 20% VAT (except food).

So the money invested in the Jubilee will bring a good payback to the treasury and make more funds available for NHS.

My bunting is up on the house for the third or fourth time since I made it, no waste there.

Anniebach Thu 02-Jun-22 09:06:29

So the Queen has decided to outlive her eldest son ?

Parsley3 Thu 02-Jun-22 09:02:23

Hithere

So there is a celebration paid by the people for a person who is not willing to pass the torch to the next generation and cannot be kicked out of her job

Doesnt anybody else see how nuts this is?

I do. It is a massive publicity stunt to boost the profile of the RF. By hanging on to the Crown I am beginning to think that the Queen doesn't think that Charles will be popular enough to keep royalists onside. The RF is becoming an endangered species.

Newquay Thu 02-Jun-22 08:42:39

Views from both sides-to be expected of course. I wish no ill to RF just hope, out of their (unknown but subsidised out of the public purse) wealth, they have the decency to fork out for us keeping their family show on the road!
I may not be royalist but I am patriotic.
Funnily enough just started to read Nick Leesons book “Rogue Trader”-remember he brought down Barings Bank? In the fascinating prologue he mentions the Queen’s £40 million she had there!
Oh just heard on news, after interviewing folk in London, that 10,000 children are going into care!

Grany Thu 02-Jun-22 08:15:10

The jubilee costs 1billion from what I heard What

Kalu Thu 02-Jun-22 08:03:03

I know this has nothing to do with monetary cost but a family member had a biopsy exploration on Tuesday, the cost, results will be delayed until 10th of June due to the Jubilee celebrations ?

OakDryad Thu 02-Jun-22 07:49:05

Not exactly. Bread and circuses refers to superficial appeasement. In politics, it means to generate public approval not by providing excellent service or public policy but by diversion and distraction to satisfy the base requirements of the population. Juvenal used the expression to criticise the selfishness of common people and their neglect of wider concerns.

I think of the lyrics of Neil Finn’s song for Crowded House Don’t Dream It’s Over

In the paper today, tales of war and of waste
But you turn right over to the TV page

I wouldn’t necessarily describe the Jubilee events as falling into the category of bread and circuses as they would have taken place even if we had good government rather a short distraction from the very serious things happening in the world.

Grandma70s Thu 02-Jun-22 07:23:33

M0nica

What about all the enjoyment and pleasure the jubilee is bringing to many people, including those who are less well off.

^'Dost thou think, because thou art virtuous, there shall be no more cakes and ale?'^

The people desire “bread and circuses” according to the Roman writer Juvenal. That is, we need to survive (enough food), but we also need fun (things like the Jubilee) in order to lead a full, enjoyable life.

Spice101 Thu 02-Jun-22 07:05:41

I bet popcorn sales are way up!

Hetty58 Wed 01-Jun-22 23:32:55

mokryna, yes, she has no choice - and any reward for NHS workers would have my vote.

mokryna Wed 01-Jun-22 22:41:29

Hetty58 My NHS DD will be working.

Hetty58 Wed 01-Jun-22 22:04:00

Among my family and friends there are two very different views. Some think the celebrations are a welcome and much needed treat for us all after a really grim couple of years. Those (the majority) who are not royalists see it as a lovely excuse to eat, drink and be merry. They are unconcerned about the costs.

The other view is that it's just adding insult to injury and it's totally inappropriate and divisive. Our essential safety net, the NHS, police, social services, local councils etc. are all really struggling to cope - along with a large section of the community, who simply can't make ends meet, let alone afford to party. They're worried sick about the future and would prefer that any funds go to the needy.

I can see both as valid reactions. Although not interested in royalty, it's a historic event, we can choose whether to celebrate/participate or ignore it all.