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Teacheranne Mon 26-Sept-22 13:38:09

In a two hourly visit every two weeks my cleaners dusts, vacs or mops two bedrooms, kitchen, bathroom, hall, lounge and garden room extension. She moves my bed where I ask, usually every couple of months, as I have sliders underneath the legs so it’s very easy to move. The bed in the spare room is only moved three or four times a year as the room is rarely used. I have never moved my washing machine or dryer and the fridge and dishwater are fully integrated so not movable.

I would think in a one bed flat, there should be time to move bed and kitchen appliances on a rota basis provided that they are on wheels, castors or sliders ( bought on Amazon). I would not expect someone to move any heavy items without such assistance.

I pay £13 per hour.

Farzanah Mon 26-Sept-22 10:45:02

Wow. Moving white goods and beds! I just do an occasional vac under the bed and couldn’t move it, and wouldn’t dream of moving fridge and cooker. Cooker is wired in and both very heavy anyway. Washing machine and tumble dryer never come out, unless for replacement or repair. My cleaner dusts, vacs and mops, cleans bathrooms, and that’s all I would expect for £13 an hour.

Sparklefizz Mon 26-Sept-22 10:32:43

I have a lovely cleaner and would never expect her to do anything other than basic cleaning, and every so often she will clean the inside windows.

I have a large floor to ceiling pine bookcase, and when I had a decorator in and he moved it, he said "There's half the cat behind this!" blush blush Neither my cleaner nor I have ever been able to move it - ditto the white goods.

M0nica Mon 26-Sept-22 10:27:02

White appliances apart. A guiding principle of all my furniture buying is that the furniture should either be flat on the ground or on legs so that I can get the vacuum cleaner, right under all the furniture without ever having to pull any of it out.

I never move kitchen/laundry appliances. just give the area a good clean if it comes out because it need repairing or is being replaced.

Franbern Mon 26-Sept-22 09:31:30

Wow!!!! Not about someone else doing my cleaning. N ever had that - but I think I keep my flat really neat and clean. Now, I wonder if am living in a mess. Would never occur to me to move out my large,freestanding fridge/freezer (unless there was a fault with it), or my free-standing washing machine and dishwasher. As for moving my double electric bed. No way!!!! It was together when I moved in, dismantled and then re-assembled when I had new carpet put down, and will stay in situ until I die or replace it.

Freeandeasy Sun 25-Sept-22 22:51:51

Thank you for all your replies. I can’t reply to individual posts (as I don’t know how to) but, yes, the general consensus of opinion is that my mum’s friend is expecting too much from S and that my mum’s friend is not living in the real world. As a previous poster has said, she’s not MY friend, so I need to take a step back, and I will do so. If S isn’t happy with the initial arrangement, she should terminate the contract, which I hope she will do so. She has plenty of clients so can easily drop my mum’s friend. My post has ended now. Thank you all for your replies. If my mum’s friend contacts me again, I will simply say that she did a fabulous job with my mum and that if she expects more, she should look elsewhere and be prepared to pay more.

Thank you.

Nannarose Sun 25-Sept-22 22:12:41

I think it completely depends on what is agreed. I am not sure whether your friend expects these large items to be moved every fortnight (surely not?) or whether she wants, say one 'extra' doing at each clean (the agreement I have with my cleaner).
We use an agency, and one of the advantages is that they have schedules, so you know what to expect.

I suspect that your friend is a bit stuck in her ways; maybe hates being unable to do things herself; so makes rather unreasonable demands.

I do think you have to keep out of it. You have told your friend what your thoughts are, and now let it lie. Should you see the cleaner, she is unlikely to comment but if she does, I would be sympathetic without embroiling yourself.

BTW I do realise it is your mum's friend, and not yours so much! Another for the 'no good deed goes unpunished' list I think!

MissAdventure Sun 25-Sept-22 21:40:24

I think your friend is taking the pee for that amount.

Wyllow3 Sun 25-Sept-22 21:37:30

Agree. Tell her to refuse. Yes, its difficult but Mums friend can't ask something that could injure the cleaner, and tell her so. She'll probably say, "well I used to do it" but thats not the point.

I think if you want that level of cleaning you need two people at work together.

It needn't be every time.

Cabbie21 Sun 25-Sept-22 21:31:40

Totally agree this is unreasonable. And unnecessary. Deep clean like that once a year, or at best, once in three months.

Fleurpepper Sun 25-Sept-22 21:26:04

I would have a word with S and tell her to refuse the work, unless expectations adjusted.

Purpledaffodil Sun 25-Sept-22 21:20:56

I think deep cleaning is a different thing entirely. Previous firm we used charged for 5 cleaners for five hours each, 25 woman hours. But very thorough. We then followed this up with “normal” cleaning once a fortnight. I think your person is being very unreasonable and I would regret getting involved too!

PaperMonster Sun 25-Sept-22 21:15:00

I wouldn’t be doing anything with the fridge and cooker other than to give them a surface clean - I wouldn’t be moving them out! And I wouldn’t be moving the bed! Not doable in a two hour general flat clean.

Aveline Sun 25-Sept-22 21:14:33

I would most certainly not expect the sort of deep clean you talk about. I think that lady must be a bit out of touch regarding expectations of cleaning ladies.

Freeandeasy Sun 25-Sept-22 20:58:18

I know cleaner issues have been discussed many times before, but I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

My mum had a cleaner for two years (at 100 she went into a nursing home last August). My mum lived in sheltered accommodation and the then cleaner also had a mum in the same complex and cleaned for a few other residents who liked her and she seemed to do a good job. At 56, she was 10 years my junior.

I had a good rapport with her and it was peace of mind to have her keep things ticking over. I retired from full-time work nearly five years ago and I still deep cleaned my mum’s flat (i.e. taking out the cooker, fridge etc and taking out the bed every three months or so and cleaning behind) so I was grateful that my mum’s cleaner did the day to day stuff (including her bed sheets).

Now to the problem. Cleaning lady (obviously don’t want to use her name, so I will call her S) still does a reasonable job at my former mum’s complex. My mum’s friend, who is 82, i.e. 18 years younger, asked if I could recommend my former mum’s cleaner. I told her that, as far as I was concerned, I could recommend her, but obviously not for deep cleaning. I did this for my mum, but her friend contacted me to say she expected removal of cooker, fridge, bed etc. in her clean. S charges £25 for two hours, so I wouldn’t expect any deep cleaning to be included in the price. My mum’s friend emphatically disagrees with me, saying she wasn’t getting her £25 a fortnight’s worth.

I was flabbergasted to be honest. My mum’s friend (although 16 years older than me) isn’t disabled, but walks with a stick and can’t bend down to clean properly. I told her that she was being unreasonable in her expectations, but she didn’t agree so we left it to agree or disagree. To be honest, I wish I hadn’t suggested S, as I feel it was me who recommended her.

What are your expectations of your cleaner (if you have one). What would you expect your cleaner to do once a fortnight in a small one bedroom flat. I would appreciate your thoughts.

Thank you.