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The National Anthem

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Floradora9 Tue 29-Nov-22 19:59:22

Listening to it before the football to-night it struck me that it is the only anthem not about the country but just about the king or queen Surely it is time to change this . Cannot say I wanted to watch the football but DH does and he has had a bad day so deserves to watch it .

Floradora9 Wed 30-Nov-22 21:35:23

Blossoming

Do Wales, Scotland and NI have ‘official’ national anthems? They each have their own football and rugby teams and I can’t imagine they all sing God save the current hereditary monarch.

Well Wales and Scotland certainly do I do not know about Ireland . Some people complain that " Flower of Scotland " is a bit drear but I like it , the Welsh one " Land of my Fathers " is uplifting .

Mollygo Wed 30-Nov-22 19:44:29

grannydarkhair

Let’s pick a new National Anthem- an idea for a new Saturday night show - I can just imagine how dire some of the entries might be 😂

And therein lies the problem. One person’s dire is another person’s great idea.
If we could agree on an idea for England, that would be a start, but trying to find something that will be acceptable to all four nations of the UK-with their multiple nationalities, all of whom would demand to have a say and be acceptable to everyone is unlikely.

grannydarkhair Wed 30-Nov-22 18:27:09

Let’s pick a new National Anthem- an idea for a new Saturday night show - I can just imagine how dire some of the entries might be 😂

Cabbie21 Wed 30-Nov-22 18:23:04

I recently sang in a concert which included the National Anthem, Rule Britannia, Jerusalem and Land of hope and glory. I don’t think the words of any are suitable , nor is I vow to thee my country. We need a new one.

Nannarose Wed 30-Nov-22 18:17:18

25Avalon

I can’t say I’m particularly bothered as how often is it actually used apart from the football? Do you remember when it used to play at the cinema at the end of the film and we all had to stand? Not any more. Most National Anthems are pretty dire imo and few get sung just mimed to.

I heard the film director Terence Davies (sp?) being interviewed. He said that he got his inspiration from childhood. He went to the cinema regularly with his (Irish) Republican grandmother. When she thought the film was nearing its end, she would get up and drag him out so they didn't have to stand for the National Anthem. At home, in bed, he would imagine the endings.......

Mamie Wed 30-Nov-22 15:29:24

It is a dirge, but I like the verse about:

Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God, save us all!

Maybe just keep that one? 😂

Oreo Wed 30-Nov-22 13:26:10

How about We Will Rock You? A great song for sporting events.
Ya got mud on yer face yer big disgrace 😂

Opal Wed 30-Nov-22 11:41:03

I agree, it needs to be changed. How about "Always look on the bright side of life"? That'll get 'em singing and dancing in the aisles ........ grin

nanna8 Wed 30-Nov-22 07:51:23

It’s one of the worst but no one seems to want to change it so you are stuck with it. All about one privileged person but that how it is and obviously most must like it. Ours is pretty dire,too but at least it is about the whole country.

Katie59 Wed 30-Nov-22 07:33:14

Maggiemaybe

Well we only get one verse so least it has the blessed benefit of being short. Some national anthems seem to drone on forever.

Thank goodness it doesn’t last a long time singing it these days is almost embarrassing

Maggiemaybe Wed 30-Nov-22 07:30:38

Well we only get one verse so least it has the blessed benefit of being short. Some national anthems seem to drone on forever.

Katie59 Wed 30-Nov-22 07:29:39

It’s a dirge, very out of date and I say that as a Royalist, we need a new anthem that inspires optimism

Whitewavemark2 Wed 30-Nov-22 06:56:46

Doodledog

Zoejory

Maybe Living on a Prayer would do. Quite apt and everyone always sings along.

😂

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Granny23 Wed 30-Nov-22 01:02:12

nadateturbe

My grandad used to stand when it was played on television at the end of the day.

My Father also leapt to his feet when the anthem played - to run to the TV and switch it off. No remote controls back then.

Mollygo Wed 30-Nov-22 00:18:56

Silvergirl

I’m always bemused as to why England think it is their anthem to sing. IMHO it could equally be claimed and used by Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. England’s rugby team does the same. Just a thought!

So it could Silvergirl - but it’d take a braver person than me to tell those teams that they should sing it.
I don’t think England think it’s their song, it’s just there isn’t another ‘English’ song everyone can agree on.
On the bright side, at least the words are easy. Some of the Welsh team did not know their words.

nadateturbe Tue 29-Nov-22 23:29:44

My grandad used to stand when it was played on television at the end of the day.

HettyBetty Tue 29-Nov-22 23:23:46

I have always had serious concerns about the NA. The tune is dire, the words are only valid if you are a Christian who thinks the UK should have a monarchy. Verse Six is anti Scot.

There needs to be a new cheerful tune with lyrics about the country and its diversity. Or just la la la to the Archers tune.

I flatly refuse to sing it on the rare occasion it crops up.

Doodledog Tue 29-Nov-22 22:59:00

Zoejory

Maybe Living on a Prayer would do. Quite apt and everyone always sings along.

😂

25Avalon Tue 29-Nov-22 22:55:27

I can’t say I’m particularly bothered as how often is it actually used apart from the football? Do you remember when it used to play at the cinema at the end of the film and we all had to stand? Not any more. Most National Anthems are pretty dire imo and few get sung just mimed to.

Casdon Tue 29-Nov-22 22:38:24

Callistemon21

Blossoming

Do Wales, Scotland and NI have ‘official’ national anthems? They each have their own football and rugby teams and I can’t imagine they all sing God save the current hereditary monarch.

Wales has an Anthem, Scotland sings an unofficial Anthem (but I'm sure the Scots could choose something more uplifting), N Ireland doesn't have one as far as I know.

Northern Ireland is the Londonderry Air, aka Danny Boy. None of them are official though, they are not recognised legally - not that it matters at all, they are adopted.

I think for England to change theirs though it will be people power at sporting events that does it, I don’t think a song is chosen, it’s more that it chooses you? (Eg why was Sweet Caroline the song for the Queen’s Jubilee?)

Zoejory Tue 29-Nov-22 22:29:09

Maybe Living on a Prayer would do. Quite apt and everyone always sings along.

paddyann54 Tue 29-Nov-22 22:27:34

I think we need something forward looking for a progressive country F of Scotland is dragging us back and the past has gone we have to look to a better future .315 years of WM rule hasn't been a success for us ,we can and will do mch better for ourselves.

Callistemon21 Tue 29-Nov-22 22:16:40

Blossoming

Do Wales, Scotland and NI have ‘official’ national anthems? They each have their own football and rugby teams and I can’t imagine they all sing God save the current hereditary monarch.

Wales has an Anthem, Scotland sings an unofficial Anthem (but I'm sure the Scots could choose something more uplifting), N Ireland doesn't have one as far as I know.

Mollygo Tue 29-Nov-22 22:07:48

Been discussed so many times and though I don’t mind the National Anthem for UK, espeI agree. National Anthem for UK, but I’d love something to sing when parts of the UK are playing against each other.

paddyann54 Tue 29-Nov-22 21:51:09

That Welsh anthem brings me to tears everytime I hear it .
I'm the same with this ,which I would be happy to have as the Scottish one as F of Scotland is a dreary dirge

youtu.be/rmxqjzCxNEE