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Sasta Tue 19-Sept-23 19:06:14

I saw this in the latest edition of Stylist, picked up from Sainsbury’s. I love seeing all the weird and wonderful stuff (mostly) young people are wearing, including the eye watering prices. Who pays this kind of money for a jumper? People do of course or they couldn’t offer them. Anyway, the photo shows a bit on page 16, giving info about the model’s outfit and where you can buy it. POA on a couple of items. What’s that all about? Now I’ll never know if I could afford them 🤭.

Ali08 Fri 06-Oct-23 18:46:08

Emily who??
Yet another 'famous designer' I haven't heard of!
I wonder if all of her ideas are hers alone, or have her minions had ideas that have suddenly become hers?
They are no more special than what other people could design and probably make up themselves, if they have sewing and/or knitting machines, but some celebrity or other saw something of hers they liked, I'm supposing, and suddenly she's a 'designer' for the rich!
Ridiculous prices, like already stated!!

Sasta Sat 23-Sept-23 18:00:34

In respect of Caravanseraā€˜s comment above, it resonates with a thread I started recently about investigations into Temu. I’m staggered at the speed it has become popular with millions of people worldwide using it, regardless of how the goods are made, and by whom, many it is said, being enslaved Uighur people. I digress, but I agree with Caravanseraā€˜s comments. Hopefully the world will get the facts once the investigation unfolds.

Sasta Sat 23-Sept-23 17:44:37

Some interesting thoughts, thank you. It’s all relative of course. I love that fairisle jumper NotSpaghetti, but couldn’t imagine paying that much even if I was loaded, (the Ā£1,700 one) but who knows šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø. I always think there’s a limit on what I’ll pay for anything, but after paying Ā£25 for two glasses of wine recently maybe I’m wrong.

storynanny Fri 22-Sept-23 11:35:11

I’d pay more for a lovely leather bag, but not for a jumper which wouldn’t last anywhere as long.
I knit, can do complicated stuff, lace, fairisle, create my own patterns etc, and I’m aware of how much the finished item would cost if I added in an hourly rate.
But unless you hand wash this expensive stuff, spend ages reblocking it , regularly debobble etc…..
I love handbags though! Although my most expensive one was about £100. I have used it regularly for over 5 years so far.

M0nica Thu 21-Sept-23 20:53:31

No, not really, we all need to buy clothes at some time or another and we then decide what current styles we like and think would suit us.

You could ignore all fashion and walk round pinned up in a blanket or dressed like medieval peasant, but I think that would probably attract more attenton than one might possibly want.

usuallyright Thu 21-Sept-23 20:35:38

This all abides under the title of Fashion. Fashion, amongst other things is designed to separate the gullible from their hard earned money, and it does this remarkably easily.

Well, this is the view that I have come to realise throughout my lifetime.

M0nica Thu 21-Sept-23 19:19:52

The difference 0ddOne is between asking the price to see if you can afford it and asking the price so that you know how much you are paying. Many wealthy people are very careful with their money, they know they can afford something but want to know the price and will then try and negotiate it downwards.

0ddOne Thu 21-Sept-23 17:17:40

POA.... I've often heard people say that if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it. But. I know that even if I won the lottery and became a multi-millionaire, I would STILL ask the price! Anyone who buys something price unknown is a fool. And a fool and their money are easily parted wink

grannybuy Thu 21-Sept-23 17:08:08

The fact that some fabrics can cost a great deal has been mentioned, and also how time consuming some of the additional details/trimming etc are, thereby affecting the cost of producing garments. I’ve knitted a number of fair isle cardigans and jumpers for myself. If I was to hand knit these, to sell, the amount of hours it had taken, and the cost of good yarn would make them expensive indeed.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 21-Sept-23 16:29:04

I have no problem with expensive clothes - just amused/ surprised at the algorithms used by the marketing department suggests that I would be likely to buy them.

jocork Thu 21-Sept-23 16:28:46

I too drive an old car - 15 years at present but it is not Ulez compliant so when my daughter flies in next month I won't be picking her up from the airport as I used to. She will have to get the train! Apart from this obvious inconvenience it serves me well. Every year I worry it will fail the MOT and not be economical to repair but its predecessor, same make and a similar model, was 18 when it bit the dust so there is hope. Replacing it will pretty much wipe out my savings!

jocork Thu 21-Sept-23 16:15:23

NotSpaghetti

I'm afraid if money was no object I would be buying £400 jumpers.

www.shetlandknitwear.com/product/fair-isle-jumper-traditional-shetland-black/
shop.purdey.com/products/cashmere-fairisle-falcon-crew-neck-sweater-in-kestral

fairislewithmarie.com/bespoke-knitwear/

www.shetlandknitwear.com/product/fair-isle-jumper-traditional-shetland-black/

I particularly love "all-over" Fairisle.

Clicked on the links and although I quite liked the Fairisle patterned knitwear I wouldn't spend that sort of money if I had it, which I don't! As for the other link I definitely disliked most of the designs - I prefer colourful!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 21-Sept-23 15:30:22

FarTooYoungForThis

Seriously though, that's actually quite reasonable for a mulberry handbag...

That’s what I posted up thread, practically a bargain.

NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Sept-23 15:22:52

FarTooYoungForThis grin

FarTooYoungForThis Thu 21-Sept-23 15:13:34

Seriously though, that's actually quite reasonable for a mulberry handbag...

Caravansera Thu 21-Sept-23 15:04:56

My understanding is that Emma Wickstead employs a team of people in her London studio to make the garments she designs, or at least that was the case three years ago. She is providing employment for talented craftsmen and women who are hopefully paid well to rewards their skills.

www.lofficielbaltic.com/en/fashion/the-art-of-dressing-up-emilia-wickstead

Far better than child-labour sweatshops in developing counties turning out cheap mass synthetic fast fashion that soon ends up discarded and dumped on other developing countries as toxic waste.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/may/31/stop-dumping-your-cast-offs-on-us-ghanaian-clothes-traders-tell-eu

It’s now more than ten years since the Rana Plaza disaster in Bangladesh which killed 1,134 people and injured another 2,500, leaving many with life-changing disabilities. Primark and Matalan were just two of the companies responsible for what happened.

NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Sept-23 14:55:23

"vostok"! No, - "would cost" grin

LovesBach Thu 21-Sept-23 14:54:37

Doubtlessly designer clothes are a little more exclusive , but I suspect there is an element of 'What can we get away with?' when deciding on a price. I have relatives who think nothing of paying hundreds for a handbag, but then perhaps those with a very high income don't see such prices as lavish - or a rip off! I have a level of resistance; if able to afford a certain thing, but feeling it to be stupidly over priced, I don't buy it. Germanshepherdsmum I also drive a very old, expensive car - but of course, it has proved to be a cheap car as the cost per year is going down as time passes, and it rarely needs a repair.

NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Sept-23 14:53:02

If you are making clothes out of fabulous fabric it will inevitably be expensive if priced next to a cheap fabric. Anyone could tell if they looked and felt them.

Quality (and short-run) fabrics can be £100s a metre, and more.. Bespoke has its own costs.

Hand woven fine cloth (silks for example) may take weeks to weave any quantity. Hand made lace likewise. You are often paying for someone's time - not just the name.

My daughter spent 10 working days hand-beading some court shoes for a show for one of the "bigger" names for example. If you don't want slave labour it needs to be paid for and will be reflected in the price. I expect those shoes vostok an arm and a leg.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 21-Sept-23 14:52:56

Not for me NotSpaghetti. I liked good clothes for work, things that made me look the part and stood up to travelling - but now my lifestyle is jeans and jumpers I definitely wouldn’t spend that sort of money on a jumper, but enough for it to be likely to last.

Ziplok Thu 21-Sept-23 14:45:30

I really don’t object to people buying expensive clothing or vehicles if they can afford to. I, personally, cannot afford to spend the amounts mentioned upthread on clothing, but if I could, I probably would, and I certainly don’t begrudge those who can, from doing so.
There will always be people in this world who are very wealthy due to one means or another (either inherited or through hard work or both). The only ones I would like to see have their wealth removed from them are those who get it from drug dealing, illegal arms trading or other such dubious means. Otherwise, if people have it, let them spend it however they wish.

NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Sept-23 14:42:32

I'm afraid if money was no object I would be buying £400 jumpers.

www.shetlandknitwear.com/product/fair-isle-jumper-traditional-shetland-black/
shop.purdey.com/products/cashmere-fairisle-falcon-crew-neck-sweater-in-kestral

fairislewithmarie.com/bespoke-knitwear/

www.shetlandknitwear.com/product/fair-isle-jumper-traditional-shetland-black/

I particularly love "all-over" Fairisle.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 21-Sept-23 14:25:18

I drive an expensive car which I have owned for 17 years. It does not strike me as morally repugnant or wrong. I give generously to charity but don’t consider that I also have to live as though I were on my uppers.

Treetops05 Thu 21-Sept-23 14:18:08

I must admit most extremely expensive clothes, even if I could afford them, I would find morally repugnant to buy...same with cars tbh. To wear or drive such expensive items when so many do not have basics strikes me as wrong.

M0nica Thu 21-Sept-23 13:46:46

Grantanow There are a lot of wealthy people in this country who can afford these clothes. These companies would not stay in existence if they could not generate enough sales.

There are 8.8 million people in this country with incomes in excess of £1,000 a week (£52.000 a year) This is individuals not households www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-11894303/Where-does-income-Britains-earners.html.