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Which school would you choose?

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sazz1 Sat 28-Sept-24 18:38:32

My DIL rang today to ask my advice about choosing a school for DGC next year. It's a choice of 2 senior schools where they live
School 1 is huge, with state of the art facilities including recording studio, new kitchens for cooking with latest ovens etc, huge IT center, languages labs, music suite with pianos for everyone to have one each, large science labs with very modern equipment and a full size swimming pool. However, there's a high turnover of staff, and head teachers, constant supply teachers, currently 5 staff vacancies and the children experience very strict discipline including putting in an exclusion room for forgetting even a pencil. The children looked worried when they saw the head.
This is the nearest school.
School 2 is older, facilities are adequate but worn, no pool, a few pianos, but the children look happy and smiling, staff have been there years, as has the head. They check if children have the right equipment once a month and give team points to those who have everything.
DGC is well behaved but is slightly behind in maths and English. Also learning the piano and an excellent swimmer excelling in all sports including football and gymnastics. DGC won't ask if they don't understand anything, and is seeing a tutor to catch up with maths and English. Its a bit further away.
Both schools have a good ofsted rating.

Athrawes Sun 29-Sept-24 11:31:06

School 2 sounds best. When I passed my eleven plus there was just one Grammar school in my area so that was that.

GrannySomerset Sun 29-Sept-24 10:00:59

Worth reading the most recent inspection reports too.

Chardy Sun 29-Sept-24 09:30:01

High turnover of staff is always a good indicator

Redhead56 Sun 29-Sept-24 09:23:10

Do they have days available so your GC and other possible students can spend time to get a feel of the school? It would be useful and then your GC could make their own choice. It would be useful to speak to other students to get feedback.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 29-Sept-24 09:06:36

Galaxy and Shelflife are right - a school with a high turnover of staff, and many supply teachers is not a happy place.
Perhaps it is a short term problem relating to a new senior management team, but if not, it would, potentially, cause a child to feel unsettled, quite separate from the effect on any future examinations.

BlueBelle Sun 29-Sept-24 06:45:51

School 2 sounds by far the best choice however I m sure her friends will all choose school 1 as it sounds very materialistic and ‘in the moment’, with all the facilities you describe,
I ve only ever heard of private schools with that description have you seen all these extras ? what state school can have a piano for each child ? and a huge swimming pool ? It’s don’t even have safe ceilings

Grammaretto Sun 29-Sept-24 06:06:19

School 2 would be my preferred choice.
We had to move our DS#1 due to bullying to a school further away where he was far happier.
Younger brother stayed but left as soon as he could at 16. DS#3 went to the far away school but resented the journey and losing local friends.

DD went to the local school, by then there was a new head teacher and better support but now tells me she
wasn't ever happy there.

It is a hard decision so good luck to your DGS and his parents.

merlotgran Sat 28-Sept-24 23:11:33

I’m beginning to think the description of School 1 is exaggerated.

Shelflife Sat 28-Sept-24 22:59:49

Going to a school where her friends will be is important, having said that I would not want a GC of mine going to a school where there is a high turnover of staff - that would be a large red flag for me. Don't think my DD would ask me but if she did I would tell her what I thought.

Wyllow3 Sat 28-Sept-24 22:12:38

School 2 sounds a happier and individual child centred place.
Grandson no 1 and family chose in a similar manner.

PaperMonster Sat 28-Sept-24 22:05:02

School 2. First one sounds horrendous.

Galaxy Sat 28-Sept-24 21:52:02

Dont go to a school with a high turnover of staff.

V3ra Sat 28-Sept-24 21:13:03

Presumably they've been to both schools open evenings, and the descriptions are what they've seen?

School 1 sounds like it's part of an academy trust where top results are all that matters.
If a child can't produce these, they may be sidelined.
Likewise the staff, hence the high turnover.

School 2 sounds like it has a more holistic approach and will be more concerned than school 1 about the children's overall wellbeing.
If your grandchild is not a natural high-flier they would be more comfortable, and consequently do better, there.

midgey Sat 28-Sept-24 20:34:31

I would never choose an ‘outstanding’ school, I think the ‘good’ schools are better as they are still trying!

crazyH Sat 28-Sept-24 20:11:59

I was just about to say - his choice and preferably where his friends will be going

sazz1 Sat 28-Sept-24 19:59:01

Thanks everyone DIL is letting DGC choose. They can't make up their mind atm so it will probably be where their friends are going

MissAdventure Sat 28-Sept-24 19:41:23

School 2., assuming the child is happy to go to either.

Allira Sat 28-Sept-24 19:39:24

Ask the DGC. My own DC and DGC had very decided views at that age.

I would say School 2 but it depends on the child's personality.

Deedaa Sat 28-Sept-24 19:31:28

I would go for school 2. I went to a grammar school myself and we had some strict rules to obey, but the implementation of the rules was nothing like as draconian as we seem to be seeing in some schools today. We were told "don't do it again" we weren't put in exclusion rooms. The high staff turnover in school 1 is particularly worrying. A change of teacher can really disrupt lessons.

M0nica Sat 28-Sept-24 19:20:24

What matters is where would your DGD be happiest - and only she can tell you that. So go with her preferences.

When it came to choosing the secondary school I and my sister was to go to, my parents looked at 2. DS and I liked and wanted to go to school No 1, but my parets opted for school 2 because it had the better academic reputation. neither my sister nor I were happy there, and my mother did admit that, as our parents, they had made the wrong decision.

Did this affect our exam achievement? probably not. But our secondary school years could have been so much happier.

When my DC came to secondary school age, we let them choose, and we have never regretted it.

keepingquiet Sat 28-Sept-24 19:14:51

I don't interfere in the schools my children choose for their own children.

If my children asked my advice I would say that's your job not mine.

Ziplok Sat 28-Sept-24 18:53:20

A high turnover of staff suggests to me a problem with the school which could ultimately impact on a child’s education/progress. With that in mind, I would be more inclined to go with school 2.

NotSpaghetti Sat 28-Sept-24 18:50:29

*does not *dies!

NotSpaghetti Sat 28-Sept-24 18:50:08

Which school dies your grandchild like and why?

I'm drawn to 2 more.
Swimming can be done after school.
How much access do the children have to the facilities in school 1?

kittylester Sat 28-Sept-24 18:43:08

I agree!