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Sarnia Fri 01-Aug-25 15:02:13

LovesBach

I've just read an article about unlicensed HMOs in and around London - a fast growing situation, where four people are sharing a small room with two double beds, and recently a fire killed occupants. You would have to be made of stone to not feel pity for many immigrants, struggling to make a better life, but where are they to live? How do we educate children, when some schools have portakabins in the playgrounds, and nineteen different languages to cope with? (Barking - Gascoigne School - a recent documentary) There is no easy answer, that much is obvious, but how much longer can this country absorb, and fund, mass immigration? The genie is rapidly struggling out of the bottle, as has been seen in Epping recently.

19 different languages? 41 !!! in a local Primary School near me. How on earth can any teacher cope with that?

Sarnia Fri 01-Aug-25 15:00:01

The clue is in the word illegal. They know what to say to try to stay here. Persecution, being gay, claiming to be children, etc. This barmy idea will be yet another excuse to stay in the country. They will suddenly discover a long lost uncle living here.
Who is going to carry out any checks? Border Control is not fit for purpose as it is. Starmer cares not one jot for those piling into the country by whatever means. He comes out occasionally to spout another ridiculous idea in the hopes of placating us but does nothing.
Starmer should have a chat with Greece. They have a 3 month ban on migrants during the summer months. Allowing boatloads of them in was seriously affecting their tourism to the detriment of their economy. Their Minister said he has a responsibility to the Greek people first and foremost. All migrants are being held in a secure camp and deported straight back. How I would love to hear Sir Keir follow suit and put the Brits first. I won't hold my breath.

Nanato3 Fri 01-Aug-25 14:39:43

J52

Nanato3

Allira

When a refugee who has married a British citizen and has a British-born child is allowed to stay without waiting seven years to find out if they can stay and not be deported, then perhaps Sir Keir could think about it!

Some only marry a British Citizen to stay in the country.
Lots of women from the Philippines do that . They'll marry anyone to stay in UK.

Is this a fact, or just your opinion. Do you know or have in your family, ladies from the Philippines?

It's fact . I know of 2 women who did this and a lot of men go to the Philippines and come back with a wife .

I had a close family male member who married a lady from the Philippines and after a month of marriage she disappeared. After quite a longish while he had divorce paperwork come through. She'd moved to a different part of the country so she wouldn't be found .

LovesBach Fri 01-Aug-25 12:54:14

I've just read an article about unlicensed HMOs in and around London - a fast growing situation, where four people are sharing a small room with two double beds, and recently a fire killed occupants. You would have to be made of stone to not feel pity for many immigrants, struggling to make a better life, but where are they to live? How do we educate children, when some schools have portakabins in the playgrounds, and nineteen different languages to cope with? (Barking - Gascoigne School - a recent documentary) There is no easy answer, that much is obvious, but how much longer can this country absorb, and fund, mass immigration? The genie is rapidly struggling out of the bottle, as has been seen in Epping recently.

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 12:16:44

Nanato3

Allira

When a refugee who has married a British citizen and has a British-born child is allowed to stay without waiting seven years to find out if they can stay and not be deported, then perhaps Sir Keir could think about it!

Some only marry a British Citizen to stay in the country.
Lots of women from the Philippines do that . They'll marry anyone to stay in UK.

That's really rather offensive.

J52 Fri 01-Aug-25 12:09:32

Nanato3

Allira

When a refugee who has married a British citizen and has a British-born child is allowed to stay without waiting seven years to find out if they can stay and not be deported, then perhaps Sir Keir could think about it!

Some only marry a British Citizen to stay in the country.
Lots of women from the Philippines do that . They'll marry anyone to stay in UK.

Is this a fact, or just your opinion. Do you know or have in your family, ladies from the Philippines?

Nanato3 Fri 01-Aug-25 12:01:53

Allira

When a refugee who has married a British citizen and has a British-born child is allowed to stay without waiting seven years to find out if they can stay and not be deported, then perhaps Sir Keir could think about it!

Some only marry a British Citizen to stay in the country.
Lots of women from the Philippines do that . They'll marry anyone to stay in UK.

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 11:24:09

When a refugee who has married a British citizen and has a British-born child is allowed to stay without waiting seven years to find out if they can stay and not be deported, then perhaps Sir Keir could think about it!

foxie48 Fri 01-Aug-25 10:38:44

Surely this is about granting asylum? I'm hoping that the UK will open proper channels so that those who seek asylum can do that without having to have their feet on British soil. If that were to happen I'd feel more comfortable about how we process those who arrive on small boats

Nanato3 Fri 01-Aug-25 10:29:43

If they are here illegally they should be sent back to their own country. The UK is too soft on immigration.

Shinamae Fri 01-Aug-25 09:51:18

I work with a lot of Indians and a lot of them have left family including children over in India,up until quite recently they were able to bring family over but now they’re not allowed to…
I do feel very sorry for them thousands of miles from their home country and family….

silverlining48 Fri 01-Aug-25 09:40:25

If you were that refugee would you not choose to be with family if that was at all possible? Be glad it’s not you.
I know we are a small island but according to the Red Cross we have just 1% of the world’s refugees. I came here as a baby so suppose I was one of them.

keepingquiet Fri 01-Aug-25 09:20:38

I also thought this had been policy for a long time...?

Retread Fri 01-Aug-25 08:24:27

I'm not entirely sure this is correct for everyone. One of my neighbours, a South African initially on a Spousal Visa, and that now has permanent residence, tried and failed to bring her mother to live in England from South Africa.

Primrose53 Fri 01-Aug-25 08:19:38

Cath9

Primrose 53
You asked how I found this out.
‘Letting mothers with young children remain’ was in answer in a Press conference.
Allowing immigrants to remain if they already have a family living in the uk was brought up recently by Sir Kier Starmer

Wasn’t me Cath9.
I know what you posted is correct.

Iam64 Fri 01-Aug-25 08:08:16

This isn’t new and isn’t something Keir Starmer made up as a whim. Having family members here is one of the reasons people try to get to the UK, as they will be entitled to stay.

Cath9 Thu 31-Jul-25 22:21:33

Primrose 53
You asked how I found this out.
‘Letting mothers with young children remain’ was in answer in a Press conference.
Allowing immigrants to remain if they already have a family living in the uk was brought up recently by Sir Kier Starmer

eazybee Thu 31-Jul-25 15:47:50

The obvious question: where are they all going to live?

Jaxjacky Thu 31-Jul-25 15:26:14

Can you point to where you've seen this please *Cath9?

Primrose53 Thu 31-Jul-25 14:56:52

He is an idiot.
Just last week it was reported that Afghans can bring their family here. One guy’s family involved 22 people! It was explained that in their culture “family is not the same as in this country.”
So there is no limit on who they can bring …. Presumably Uncle Tom Cobley and all!

Moii Thu 31-Jul-25 14:53:51

That would be an even bigger pull for anyone with family here to jump on a dinghy, no thanks.

Jaxjacky Thu 31-Jul-25 14:27:39

His name is Keir Starmer actually.

Cath9 Thu 31-Jul-25 13:59:25

What is your opinion of Ker Stammer’s idea of allowing illegal immigrants to remain if they already have a family in the country?
When a few weeks ago, Sir Ker also mentioned that he couldn’t send mothers with young children back .
Great, so they can then bring their family which in the end will cause more staying not less.