fancyflowers, your explanation makes sweet sense.
I have had a very comforting experience of the 'butterfly' kind.
And yes, Retread, school science claimed that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
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Signs/messages after a person passes away
(112 Posts)Does anyone feel that after someone in your world has gone that sometimes you get ‘messages’ from them. I don’t mean hearing their voice but rather things that happen that instantly make you feel like it’s a communication from them? Any examples would be interesting to hear…
Not as such, but during a few days after my MiL died (too young 😰) I had a very strong sense of her presence in our house - I could almost ‘see’ her sitting on the sofa. Should add that she’d always been happy at our house, whereas her last few years with FIL, had not been easy, since he could be very difficult.
I put it down entirely to my imagination, so after my father died only 6 months later, incidentally from the same cancer, I fully expected to ‘sense’ his presence in either our house, or my mother’s.
But there was absolutely nothing. Zilch,
I agree that we return to stardust, as atoms. But what I wonder about is energy, our life force, because energy never dies.
In one of the bedrooms we have touch tap bedside lamps. I remember one day feeling very down and wandering into the room I noticed one of the lights was on. This has continued to happen over the years and whilst I know it is not actually my mother sending a sign it brings memories of my mother’s love and comfort to me. I don’t think I will ever be changing those lamps. 🩷
fancyflowers
I believe that there are spirits around us that we are not equipped to perceive with our limited senses.
I always compare it to ants, busy doing whatever it is they do, with no perception of the world around them. They don't know about buildings, transport, in fact all aspects of our daily lives.
I think we are the same, going about our business with no concept of another dimension around us.
Sorry if that sounds a bit daft, but it's what I believe.
Not daft at all fancy flowers, at least not to me. Your analogy is along the lines of the way I think.
DamaskRose
No, I don’t but I’m glad people do if it brings them some degree of happiness or peace.
I agreee but memories and emotions can trigger all sorts of things in your mind.
I would love to believe there are spirits around us, have had several experiences that cannot be logically explained. Have already posted the experience after my dear sister died and won’t bore you with others but sometimes I feel lost loved ones close to me, not only in times of trouble but just on an ordinary untroubled day. And it is comforting.
fancyflowers
I believe that there are spirits around us that we are not equipped to perceive with our limited senses.
I always compare it to ants, busy doing whatever it is they do, with no perception of the world around them. They don't know about buildings, transport, in fact all aspects of our daily lives.
I think we are the same, going about our business with no concept of another dimension around us.
Sorry if that sounds a bit daft, but it's what I believe.
I agree totally. Our human brains are only able to perceive what we see in front of us. We can't see everything in the universe. We can't see the wind but we know it's there when we feel a rush of air on our face or see trees waving around.
It seems that some people are able to see more than others however. While some people are more analytical, more scientific, others feed off their feelings, are more spiritual by nature and can sense things.
So although these things may be all around us most people aren't aware of anything while others sense things occasionally especially when someone close dies.
fancyflowers
I believe that there are spirits around us that we are not equipped to perceive with our limited senses.
I always compare it to ants, busy doing whatever it is they do, with no perception of the world around them. They don't know about buildings, transport, in fact all aspects of our daily lives.
I think we are the same, going about our business with no concept of another dimension around us.
Sorry if that sounds a bit daft, but it's what I believe.
You could well be right.
I don't believe in the afterlife and I am not religious. However, when my brother died aged 24, I had a dream that I could see him with blue skies around him and he looked happy. He told me not to worry as he was fine now.
He was a very troubled soul and took his own life. This dream was a very small comfort.
Since DH died, nearly four years ago, I have twice heard him say my name. Each time I have been wide awake and active, so not a dream. He was Welsh and the way he said my name had a particular intonation. Anyone among our family and friends would have recognised it immediately. It sounded as if he was searching for me. I’m not given to flights of fancy, but I was very disconcerted and saddened by it, not comforted at all.
I believe that there are spirits around us that we are not equipped to perceive with our limited senses.
I always compare it to ants, busy doing whatever it is they do, with no perception of the world around them. They don't know about buildings, transport, in fact all aspects of our daily lives.
I think we are the same, going about our business with no concept of another dimension around us.
Sorry if that sounds a bit daft, but it's what I believe.
A school friend died during Covid so we all had to watch her funeral on a webcam in our respective homes. Afterwards, I went for a walk round a walled field. As I walked, a wheatear landed on the wall near me, looked at me and tweeted. It continued to fly in front of where I was walking round the edge of the field, where it would stop, tweet and look directly at me. Then off it would go again, land and so on right round the field. Eventually, it was starting to frighten me and I said, “Please X, can you stop this now?” Whereupon the bird flew away.
It’s comforting to think coincidences are messages.
On Saturday I spotted the first snowdrop - a tiny speck of white which had pushed its way through the usual winter debris. It was part of a clump I had brought from my old garden I shared with DH.
It would have been his 81st birthday. ❤️
need to be open
Oh yes and always when I have done a difficult job or need a solution to a problem. Just need to need open to the spirit world and the tiny messages they try to send. A closed mind will never see a message
eg When I moved after doing all the packing myself. on an interior landing a small fluffy white feather. Another time after dropping a very tiny allen nut into gravel, there it was, I got the nut back
I never lose anything, I just ask for help and go directly to the `lost` object. The partridge that sat on a fence by me after my husband died. The kestrel that sat on dgd window cill after her grandad passed. I have a mass of examples and always comforting and with guidance
When I was about 10, some long dead relations came to visit me and I have never been afraid of dying, never since then and nor do I get angry at loved ones who have died, it was their time
Definitely I certainly get messages and sense people that I really loved and miss.
I'm a restless sleeper and dream a lot these these days . But though I used to sleep well I still had vivid dreams .
In my dreams,my Grandma visits me and says I'm always with you .
I sense her when I'm gardening.
I also sense my parents.
I also feel that my best friend,who died tragically is sometimes around.
Yes deff, But you sometimes have to look for them.
My mum died 5 yrs ago my dad last April.
Was watching youtube few weeks ago when randomly this decorator came on, he was papering a wall out of all the papers he could have chose it was the same paper that was on my dads kitchen wall.
About 12 mnths ago I was driving turned a corner, I was going to where my dad lived, I ended up behind a vehicle its number plate ended in DEE that was my mums nickname.
I have started writing down any coincidences./messages but just cant bring them all to mind right now.
Last week I was working in front of my friend on a checkout.
I turned round and said oh I've just had Angel numbers.
She said I had one in December. 23/23 it was the 23rd of December and it was the date of her daughters birthday who died 10 yrs ago.
So yes.
No ... not signs. My late OH has returned to his atoms, to the stardust. He is not in a position to send signs.
But lots of things trigger memories of course... some good, some less so.
I definitely believe it and constantly ask for signs when I am feeling down. Out of nowhere we will get the strong smell of cigarettes (Mum and Dad were heavy smokers). I believe my Dad appears as a robin and my Mum as a squirrel, I know these are commonly seen but it'd the unusual circumstances when I tend to see them. It helps me anyway so I will continue to believe.
Many years ago a colleague lost her adult daughter.During conversations in the days before her death she told her mum she would come back as a butterfly…in strange and up expected places,
On the day of the funeral a butterfly folllwed the coffin up the aisle in Scotland in February and just a couple of weeks later when my friend took her GC on holiday a butterfly met them on the plane
I,m not a believer but they all got so much comfort from it that I wept
There’s no harm in. believing things that help when you,re grieving.
No, I don’t but I’m glad people do if it brings them some degree of happiness or peace.
I once “saw” my dad appearing at the window for a few days running. I won’t go into details, but I believe he was trying to warn us of a tragedy that occurred locally and in which our son could easily have been involved. That our son wasn’t there at the time was, I believe, an answer to a prayer brought on by “seeing” my dad. I just knew he was there for a reason, though I didn’t know what at the time.
I had lots of my mother’s bits and pieces in my home after she died and felt guilty about disposing of them either to charity shops or just throwing away.
One day when I was wondering what to do again my bedroom was filled with the scent of her room when she was in a care home.
She liked the smell of lavender and always had a room spray and lavender bags hanging in her wardrobe.
The scent was so powerful I was convinced she was telling me it was ok to part with them,
I don’t know why I was so reluctant because I have to admit I didn’t have the easiest of relationships with her but supported her fully to the end of her very long life.
Cossy
There probably are people there.
I’ve seen 2 ghosts/ spirits. One was the late father of my boyfriend at the time and the other was my friends cat who had not long died.
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