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rosesarered Thu 01-Oct-15 17:00:34

I agree with Bel.Totally!

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 01-Oct-15 16:48:04

Many parents want to do a better job at raising children than their parents though, so maybe that's where things stem from. Many of us can look back at our childhood and think of things we wouldn't want our children to experience. So we do things differently and get different results. In general every parent tries to do the best for their children, so each generation is different. Not better or worse, just different. So no, I don't agree with Bel.

TwiceAsNice Thu 01-Oct-15 16:15:46

Absolutely agree with Bel and other posters. I grew up in a house without central heating and very little luxuries. Teachers in school were awful for the most part and you had to " get on with" a lot of things. We were certainly too poor for me to go to university, I put myself through a degree in my early forties after dealing with the death of my middle child and the breakup later on of an abusive relationship.

However I still look back on things with a lot of pleasure not everything was stressful. I am happy have many friends and a lovely supportive family. Despite all the difficulties in the past I feel blessed. At some point only you can make your glass half full instead of half empty.

Gagagran Thu 01-Oct-15 13:53:37

I agree "soontobe". It's all "look at me, look at me" with the younger ones where we would have been told to stop showing off. They do seem to need to be centre stage and to make dramas out of trivialities. (Bless their little cottons!) I speak from the experience of three DGDs and a drama queen DDiL, you understand! grin

ffinnochio Thu 01-Oct-15 13:47:07

So try to control the fuss factor. Yep. With you there, Bel. smile

soontobe Thu 01-Oct-15 13:41:24

Facebook, Twitter, sites with younger people.

Anya Thu 01-Oct-15 13:15:19

Who are you talking about when you say 'some people just write things'? confused

soontobe Thu 01-Oct-15 13:08:42

I wonder if some people just write things, but dont really mean it to the extent it sounds.

If they do, I think it is because of what KatyK says. They may not have known real hardship.

HappyNan1 Thu 01-Oct-15 13:08:18

I'm with you Bel and jeana, suppose the moden version is 'Get over yourself'. I feel sorry for those who now collapse in a puddle of tears and almost hysteria at the slightest thing, what will their children learn?

Anya Thu 01-Oct-15 13:01:58

Spot on Bel

There's a thread somewhere on GN about University students not being able to hack it, and your blog hits the nail on the head. As Lucky said, the pendulum's swung too far.

Luckygirl Thu 01-Oct-15 12:49:37

I have no problem with people (male and female) feeling that it is OK to cry now in a way that it wasn't when we were young. But the question is what they are crying about; whether it warrants their tears.

I would not want to go back to the stiff upper lip completely - it led to emotional constipation, which was not healthy, as tears were seen as a failure and a weakness - but we now seem to have the opposite!

janeainsworth Thu 01-Oct-15 12:44:50

My DCs all think they have been traumatised by having a mother whose stock response to everything was a variant on 'pull yourself together' grin

KatyK Thu 01-Oct-15 12:34:33

I totally agree with Bel on this. My life has been quite difficult and I have also had to 'get on with it'. It seems that people are always crying over what, in my opinion, is really nothing at all. They cry on programmes such as The X Factor and such like. Sometimes I am totally flabbergasted at the reactions of people to what seems to me to be trivial. Perhaps it is because they have never had any real hardship in their lives so don't know any different. I don't wish suffering on anyone of course but sometimes a bit of hardship makes us realise what is really important in life. Then maybe what we see as trivial, they see as devastating.

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 01-Oct-15 12:17:18

Why do people make so much fuss?

Veteran journalist and author, Bel Mooney wonders why on earth the next generations seem to take everything so very much harder than her own does?

Bel Mooney

Why do people make such a fuss?

Posted on: Thu 01-Oct-15 12:17:18

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"Why do people make so much fuss?" asks Bel Mooney

It happened over a few days – an accumulation of irritating pinpricks of feebleness that led me to conclude that we have become a nation of wimps. I’m very active on Facebook (with a personal page as well as a community page, Bel Mooney-Writer) and it was there I started noticing the bleats.

The young author of a single novel confided that writing was 'agony' and 'an unbearable strain.' A woman whose daughter was packing to go off to university wailed that she felt full of 'grief' at the parting, and many people 'liked' this - agreeing that waving goodbye to their teenagers was one of life's cruellest traumas.

Then a reader of my Daily Mail advice column wrote to chide me for being 'mean' and 'hurtful' in my robust reply to a problem, when I had merely suggested that the guy who fancied himself in love with a woman he'd known for five minutes was deluding himself and needed to get real.

Naturally I'm continuously driven mad by the on-going rows in our universities about 'offence' given to this minority group or that. And I often wonder how many people who even go to law because of their hurt feelings were treated with kid gloves when they were children, turning them into adults who can't cope with the rough and tumble of life. A society which encourages nervous young mums to use antiseptic spray cleaner on every surface including the high chair is in thrall to wimpishness of the highest order.

Whenever I ask my mother if she felt upset by something that happened during her hard life, her response is always the same: a philosophical shrug and "You just got on with it."


When did we start making so much fuss about everything? As a child of
the fifties I remember falling over and skinning my knee and accepting this as a natural result of play. If my mother saw the graze she'd say briskly, "It'll be all right' – and carry on with what she was doing. In contrast, the other day I saw a young mother almost have hysterics because her child has scratched his arm on a rose bush and she blamed the dad for not preventing this grave injury.

"Oh come on!" I want to shout, "Toughen up - all of you!" My parents' generation (born in the 1920s) had to put up and shut up, because there was no alternative.

Whenever I ask my mother if she felt upset by something that happened during her hard life, her response is always the same: a philosophical shrug and "You just got on with it."

We baby boomers were the same, weren't we? Nobody I knew moaned about freezing floors and iced up windows (on the inside), or masses of homework, or having to write lines for misbehaviour in school, or strict uniform rules, or measly jam sandwiches for tea…because that's how it was. For everybody. Yes, we 'had it so good' later on, but as kids we were packed off to play out in all weathers. And never got a cold.

But now crying and complaining seem to be the common responses to everything. Young women take offence and get angry if a man pays a compliment and the fuss goes on for weeks. Each one of life's hardships sparks discussions of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, when the truth is this: pain is normal and so is sadness and you do - in the end - get over it. So try to control the fuss factor. Please.

Bel's new book Lifelines: Words to Help You Through is published by The Robson Press and is available from Amazon now.

By Bel Mooney

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