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LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 17-Nov-16 10:42:52

The wrong kind of refugee?

In recent years, the world has witnessed a refugee crisis that has forced more than a million men, women and children to flee the brutal violence in their own countries. Yet despite the life-threatening situations they face, these refugees (including children) have often been met with a degree of suspicion and fear in the nations they have escaped to.

Author Barbara Fox, whose own mother was evacuated from inner-city Newcastle as a child, wonders what the difference between Britain's long-ago children and today's refugees is?

Barbara Fox

The wrong kind of refugee?

Posted on: Thu 17-Nov-16 10:42:52

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Are today's refugees really any different?

When I read a headline recently about the outrage of a 'picturesque' village to which 70 'child migrants' were to be sent, I was reminded of another time in our history when places in the countryside were obliged to welcome strangers into their midst.

Back in 1940 when she was six years old, my mother, Gwenda, and her older brother, Doug, were among the hundreds of thousands of children who left their inner-city homes and were evacuated to the countryside to escape the German bombs.

Gwenda's main memory of her journey from Newcastle to the Lake District centres round the banana she was given to eat by her mother – the last she was to see for several years. A teacher ordered the children to sit on their bags, and consequently, when Gwenda came to unpack later, she found squashed banana over all her belongings.

On arrival in the pretty village of Bampton they were lined up in the church hall while the villagers came to choose who they wanted. Yes, it does seem unbelievable that that was how the evacuees were billeted to their families! You might imagine that Gwenda and Doug – clean, nicely dressed children - would have been snapped up first (they would surely be the refugees that no one would protest about today!). But actually, that was not the case. Gwenda was the youngest child there as she was tagging along with Doug and his class of nine-year-olds - their mother had insisted that the pair should not be separated. Consequently, the locals were expecting older children, and someone of Gwenda's size probably didn't look very useful in this farming community.

Were these home-grown children that our rural communities welcomed back then really so different from the oft-maligned refugee children today?


Gwenda and Doug were the only children left when the wife of the village headmaster arrived. As the mother of two sons, she had to be persuaded to take a girl. However, she relented, and so the children went home with her. They would spend three happy years living in the schoolhouse and Gwenda would keep in touch with the couple she called 'Aunty' and 'Uncle' for the rest of their lives.

The following year, in more desperate circumstances, Bampton opened its doors to another influx of children, this time from the shipbuilding town of Barrow-in-Furness.

Undoubtedly thousands of lives were saved by this evacuation of the nation's children, and indeed, Gwenda and Doug's own street in Newcastle was bombed.

Britain also welcomed refugees from Europe, including thousands of Jewish children who might otherwise have perished.

Were these home-grown children that our rural communities welcomed back then really so different from the oft-maligned refugee children today? I would go so far as to say that the inner-city children who turned up in Bampton were often just as alien to their rural hosts as the foreign newcomers seem to be to the 'picturesque' village dwellers. But equally, both could teach something to the other.

Those harking back to 'when Britain was great' perhaps forget that it was also characterised by our opening our doors to those in need.

When the War Is Over by Barbara Fox, the story of Gwenda’s wartime evacuation, is published by Sphere and is available from Amazon.

By Barbara Fox

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durhamjen Tue 20-Dec-16 14:08:01

It's easier to scapegoat them, Jess.

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 14:19:57

Jen, I do not hold those fears, I do respect the fact that people do, you just dismiss them , you are as extreme as Farage , he installs fear,you poo poo fears

Ankers Tue 20-Dec-16 16:16:03

She attempts to poo poo reality too.
By using deflection.

JessM Tue 20-Dec-16 16:20:08

weny62 refugees and asylum seekers do not come under the heading "Immigration policy" - which is about who can move here to work or settle with a spouse.

durhamjen Tue 20-Dec-16 16:45:56

Maybe I should have kept my money in order to take you to court, Annie, for defamation.
On second thoughts, Farage is much more important.

I guess you won't be funding Hope Not Hate, even though it was you who introduced me to the group.

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 18:47:20

Jen, I don't think GN awards oscars .

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 18:54:49

Jen, you lived with immigrants in the fifties and Sixties? Remind me please just how high the terrorist threat was in those decades

suzied Tue 20-Dec-16 19:00:30

Quite high if those immigrants were Irish.

Jane10 Tue 20-Dec-16 19:16:47

Come on ladies, its Christmas. How about a festive kickabout in no man's land? Hostilities can be resumed after Christmas -although I suspect there may be even more to argue about then.

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 19:46:19

Sorry Jane, I will not play 'Christmas joy' too important a day for me

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 19:49:52

You have the wrong decade suzied and the people of Northern Ireland were not immigrants ,

Ana Tue 20-Dec-16 20:02:38

Must admit I was wondering what threat of terrorism there was from the Irish in the 50s and 60s...

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 20:09:15

There wasn't Ana, unless suzied was living in NI

Jalima Tue 20-Dec-16 20:30:33

Not until 1967
I was in Belfast in 1966 and things were simmering; I was told to keep my mouth shut for my own good in a couple of areas because of my English accent (not as a threat, as a warning by friends I was with).

durhamjen Tue 20-Dec-16 22:38:00

My brother was in Belfast in 1968. In the army.

However, I never actually said there was a terrorism threat in the 50s and 60s. I said I was living with immigrants.
You are possibly conflating immigrants and terrorists, which happens a lot.
The point is that if people get to know immigrants, get used to immigrants, they do not think all immigrants are suspects when any crime occurs. They do not think all immigrants are terrorists.

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 22:54:04

I don't believe all people think all immigrants are suspects when any crime occurs ,

Jalima Tue 20-Dec-16 23:01:00

Not me, I never conflated anything
I was just verifying when the more recent troubles began in NI.

Ana is correct, most people do not think immediately immigrant when a crime is committed. However, if it is a terrorist-like crime then they may do although that does not necessarily mean immigrant either.

Jalima Tue 20-Dec-16 23:02:06

Sorry anniebach not Ana

Too late, too tired, apologies ab

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 23:17:45

Jalima smile

I think we would be wrong to judge people for thinking 'terrorists' when this slaughtering happens . When it came on the news ny first thoughts were for those hit by the vehicle then I thought - I hope it was an accident not a terrorist act

durhamjen Tue 20-Dec-16 23:50:23

Didn't mean you, Jalima, and I didn't say all or most people, I just said people.
Some people always have to exaggerate to make a point.

Anniebach Wed 21-Dec-16 08:26:04

True Jen, some do. as a member of Hope not Hate may I say I am in awe of you giving such a vast sum of money to their appeal, I know you wouldn't exaggerate .

JessM Wed 21-Dec-16 09:21:23

Turns out the "suspect" in Berlin was an innocent bystander who happened to have a brown face. Lucky he doesn't live in a fascist state isn't it.

JessM Wed 21-Dec-16 09:24:02

I think there is an increasing feeling that Nigel Farage and Katy whatserface, her what lost the Apprentice makes a living writing nasty stuff for the Mail, have been given far to much of a long lease to foment hate.

Anniebach Wed 21-Dec-16 09:29:20

On the news thus morning it was said he was arrested after driving through a red light

Anya Wed 21-Dec-16 09:33:16

Yes, the Stop Funding Hate campaign is having some limited success. I've made a conscious effort not to buy from stores, like John Lewis, who advertise with them AND (more to the point) have emailed these stores saying why they've lost my custom.

I think some (again John Lewis as a example) are hoping to ride this out and that it will die a natural death. I'm hoping their Christmas profit margin will take a dip so they will have to think again. Sadly, I'm not sure enough people actually care.

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