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‘Spare’ by Prince Harry

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NanKate Thu 27-Oct-22 16:08:30

To be published in January. Oh dear ?

Quokka Sat 29-Oct-22 15:02:02

Ladyleftfieldlover

There is an interesting article in the Guardian today - ‘Please spare me all of this Harry-hating’ by Marina Hyde.

Exactly.

poshpaws Sat 29-Oct-22 14:58:17

Goodness, what a lot of Harry Haters.

To me, he's the only member of the RF who has any integrity. He fought for this country without special privileges, gives not only his time but his money to charities he feels as strongly about as his mother did hers, and he had the backbone to give up a role he'd been brought up to fulfil and all the privileges that came with it in order to protect his wife and family and remove them from the toxic cesspit of the RF and what Diana referred to as "the men in grey suits".

Compare that to the man who not only duped a naive 19 year old virgin into believing he loved her, in order to use her as a well-bred brood mare but who as Diana herself described made no effort to bring her happiness and indeed was soon back to busily screwing the woman whose gift of cufflinks with their entwined initials inscribed he actually WORE ON HIS HONEYMOON!

Also - if the RF have done nothing to be ashamed of why on earth are they allegedly so upset and worried about what Harry's book will say?

maddyone Sat 29-Oct-22 14:56:54

Of course you do vegansrock. You clearly agree that people should be called names by adults ie called haters. I think adults should behave in a more refined way and not name call like children in a school playground. No doubt Marina Hyde would think me old fashioned. If old fashioned means polite, then I try to be so, despite some provocation at times. Personally I think Marina Hyde would do well to refrain from name calling in her column.

volver Sat 29-Oct-22 14:53:01

But nobody hates her.

Well, hardly anybody.

If only she didn't tell lies.

undines Sat 29-Oct-22 14:51:24

Many people suspect that Meghan has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. If this is true I pity Harry because it will be very hard indeed for him to think for himself. People with NPD can be extremely clever and manipulative and the partner does not have to be 'weak' to be controlled. We all have vulnerable points and those with NPD are wickedly cunning in exploiting them. Time will tell (hopefully) for Harry. I won't be buying the book!

Coco51 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:50:35

Lucca

*how can we ever know what is true and what is 'Harry's truth' (ie a lie).*

Guilty until proved innocent eh

When what he and she have previously written or said and the contadicted themselves and where there is definite evidence to that effect.

Norah Sat 29-Oct-22 14:48:31

Farzanah I’m finding the whole circus hugely entertaining, and a distraction on these darkening days.

That about says it all.

I tend towards agreeing with volver what makes middle aged women so enraged by a posh bloke in the US writing a book

Joseanne Sat 29-Oct-22 14:46:56

Namsnanny

Very few 'hate' him or her. Most hate the lies.

Indeed Namsnanny, and the criticisms of his entire family.

I've just had an idea, we could order the book through WHSmith,
We hope you are delighted with everything you buy from us. However, if you are not, we will refund or replace your order up to 30 days after purchase
and return it when we are "undelighted" with the content!

Dynawritecat Sat 29-Oct-22 14:46:55

I'm with you. I like Harry and will read the book. The royal family is a business intent on its own preservation. They even call it the firm themselves.

Coco51 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:45:07

Serendipity22

Well, I have the upmost sympathy for Harry, none of us can possibly know what his life/feelings consist of, I have not a shred of criticism for him only a pondering thought of will there be regret ? That is my worry.

Will I read the book? Probably so.

Would you feel as content if you were publicly desparaged in the same way by your children and grandchildren?

Namsnanny Sat 29-Oct-22 14:39:55

Very few 'hate' him or her. Most hate the lies.

Jenn53 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:38:25

Well said, "VampireQueen"!

Jenn53 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:35:50

Agree with you Ladyleftfieldlover. And, we should not judge a book by its cover. Read it first.

vampirequeen Sat 29-Oct-22 14:35:23

I'm looking forward to the book. There is so much sycophantic twaddle written about the Royal Family, it will be refreshing to read something that they have no control over. I don't blame H if he does a hatchet job on the woman who made his mam so unhappy or on the father who betrayed his mother. It seems to me that he did his bit for the RF. Tried to conform. Joined the armed forces. Went to war because he was the expendable one. Yet, at the end of the day, he's the demon who is supposed to be easily led by his equally demonic wife whilst his brother and wife are promoted as virtual saints.

It's time some people lost their rose-tinted glasses. This book might help with that, but it will be vilified in the media and royalists will simply refuse to believe it.

Coco51 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:35:15

Elegran

It was the media that called them "the heir and the spare" not their parents. as far as I could see, He wasn't made to feel second best or inferior. He was one of two children, and always seemed to be treated the same as his brother. When he was older, he did a job he loved, flying helicopters, and he married the woman he chose. If she found she was a square peg in a round hole, then so are many wives when they come into close contact with their husband's families. The vast majority manage to rub along together and the couples don't go on to make a career about of dissing their inlaws.

‘Heir and spare’ terminology has always been around for royals and aristocracy for millenia. It is not uniquely British. Men have always wanted sons to carry on their names, and should the firstborn come to grief, there would still be a direct descendent to inherit their wealth, titles, estates and whatever else.

vegansrock Sat 29-Oct-22 14:33:06

I agree with Marina Hyde.

FannyCornforth Sat 29-Oct-22 14:32:21

Ladyleftfieldlover

There is an interesting article in the Guardian today - ‘Please spare me all of this Harry-hating’ by Marina Hyde.

It’s already been linked to

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 29-Oct-22 14:31:32

There is an interesting article in the Guardian today - ‘Please spare me all of this Harry-hating’ by Marina Hyde.

Millie22 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:26:39

Hudson is needed here

or Carson to sort matters out.

Coco51 Sat 29-Oct-22 14:24:34

Ladyleftfieldlover

Thing is, the tabloid press and others write what they like about the Royal family so why can’t Harry write his own book? People like Piers Morgan has been getting his knickers in a huge knot over this book, but he is happy to write reams of rubbish about Harry and Meghan. Look how many books have been written about Diana. When she did write her own version of events via Andrew Morton, it was if the sky had fallen in. So good for Harry. If he has written the truth and his family are upset, so be it.

The trouble is, that so much is NOT the truth. Meghan has been found out as lying about her youth and her experience in the Royal Family, and there is hard evidence that she contadicted herself on numerous topics. Harry is party to the lies and can have no excuse for trashing the family without which his would not exist. For instance saying that Archie could not be a prince because of his colour - the protocol (introduced by King George V) is that only grandchildren of the monarch can have the title of ‘prince’ or ‘princess’. Archie is entitled to the be ‘prince’. But why should Britain have a prince who is probably going to be brought up as an American?

FannyCornforth Sat 29-Oct-22 14:24:26

Nodj

🎤

What is the meaning of this?
I know it’s a mic, but…

Forsythia Sat 29-Oct-22 14:23:55

I think some words are missing. It doesn’t read correctly.

Prentice Sat 29-Oct-22 14:23:13

I knew it was a cook grin from a historical tv programme.
I loved Upstairs Downstairs too, but Downton Abbey was better.I wish there were more, shall have to watch the re-runs in future.

volver Sat 29-Oct-22 14:19:43

No doubt it would be received only because Meghan is black.

What on earth does that mean? I probably shouldn't ask. But now I have.

volver Sat 29-Oct-22 14:18:05

Prentice

It is also my favourite character from Downton Abbey smile

Upstairs Downstairs.