‘Spare’ by Prince Harry

I was just having a long think about conversations about the past with both my parents and my children, and the number of times I heard “no I did not/Yes you certainly did/it was nothing like that etc./ I didn’t say that etc etc. The Queen definitely got it right with ‘Recollections may vary’. There is often no intention to mislead, we all remember things from our own perspective. This has now become labelled “My truth” but as soon as I see that written down, quite honestly I start to doubt it.

That said, as an outsider looking in, with no first hand knowledge of a situation, conclusions are inevitably drawn as a result of hearsay, who knows what the truth is, and frankly who really cares. Honestly, what true difference does it make to any of us, aside from having a good old gossip….. and really that is not a hanging offence is it?

They told the bees the Queen had died too.

How do I know that? Great PR story...

Lathyrus

Oh dear. I’m half afraid to admit that we took my MILs horses and dogs to her funeral. She loved them so much it just felt right.

The funeral was at a Green burial place, in case anyone is shocked.

I know exactly what you mean.

Did you know that when a Bee Keeper dies, someone always goes and tells the Bees 🐝

do some good works for charity

So the Invictus games, Sentibale and Archewell isn't enough good work?

Gosh, you have high standards.

Oh dear. I’m half afraid to admit that we took my MILs horses and dogs to her funeral. She loved them so much it just felt right.

The funeral was at a Green burial place, in case anyone is shocked.

Every generation thinks they will do better than the last. But THIS generation, oh, they despise their parents and put themselves on a pedestal, pointing the finger , acting like entitled victims- yet they have no idea how hard parenting becomes and the mistakes they are yet to make.

I won't be buying Harry's book. I'm sorry for him as he is clearly damaged, but I don't think writing a book is acceptable, given his upbringing. It's a low blow for the RF. He needs to go away and grow up, get counselling and do some good works for charity, bring up his kids to adulthood in dignity without bleating- otherwise he's showing them that if you don't like your parenting you just write a book and expose it. Not a healthy example to set your kids!

OnwardandUpward

I doubt the animals benefitted from it or understood, although they might have done.

Indeed.

So why were they there?

I doubt the animals benefitted from it or understood, although they might have done.

I'm going to insist on that pony.

What was the point of the pony being there? And the corgis?

Sentimentality and a good image for the TV cameras.

The RF are past masters at PR and complaining because somebody else is too, is too comical for words.

maddyone

Yes indeed volver. It was a very sad time for the royal family, and also for thousands upon thousands of ordinary people. Although I would prefer a republic, I can understand that people were sad and needed to grieve in their own way. The press have reported that the Queen planned her own funeral down to the last detail. It was certainly very ostentatious in my view, but it was what she wanted and as our HofS who reigned for seventy years, I think that was okay. I hope our next state funeral will not be so ostentatious or expensive.

It was a coincidence that Harry and Meghan were here, as they were apparently appearing at a couple of engagements to do with Harry’s charities. It was reported that they refused an invitation to Balmoral to see the Queen. If that is the case, Harry will have to live with that for the rest of his life. It was also reported that Harry arrived later than the others at Balmoral because he wasted time trying to persuade Charles that Meghan should go with him. Whatever, he was the last to arrive. It was reported that Harry turned down an invitation to dine with his father and brother at his father’s Scottish residence on the night of the Queen’s death and he was photographed leaving Balmoral early the next morning.

Whilst being fully aware of the foibles of the press, it seems unlikely to me that all of this has been completely made up, it is likely very near the truth and has been leaked. Some of it is verifiable by photographs. I think therefore that the royals have reached out and been rebuffed at every turn. It is also reported that Charles is very saddened by the rift between himself and Harry. As a parent, I’m sure he is devastated.

It was reported that they refused

If that is the case,

It was also reported that

It was reported

Any actual facts then? Or just supposition?

Smileless2012

There's a huge difference between events being broadcast because tv cameras were, there as opposed to American tv cameras being notified in advance to ensure that they would be there volver, if that was the case.

I'm sure her GC looked sad because they were. Their GM had died.

I'm afraid if you think its perfectly natural that the BBC (or ITV, or whoever) just naturally turn up at these events because they are so overwhelmed with respect for the RF, then you are wrong. sorry. They are televising whatever it is that they know the public will lap up.

How do you know the Netflix cameras were there by the way? Is there a picture? Or is it a report in the Daily Whatever?

Of course the grandchildren were sad. Did we need to see them all marching along to the catafalque? Really, did we need to see it? Did we need to have minute by minute coverage of it?

I recall when the Queen Mother was lying in state it was reported on the news that the 4 grandsons were standing vigil at the catafalque. That was dignified. Not staged.

If my parents were H&M I think I'd grow up and want to stay at the palace

Like any parent, I'm sure Charles has made mistakes and has regrets. I'm not really a fan of his but I feel sorry for him that Harry has made his feelings or experiences public.

It may feel cathartic for Harry, but I expect he will live to regret it. I also wonder whether his kids will crave the royal life and their grandparents, Charles and Camilla.

Sometimes I think it really angers our almost estranged kids when they see how much their kids love us- and in my case I think my son's jealousy made him cut us off. My Mother did everything to poison me against her parents and my Father's parents. But it did not work.

I wonder if Lily and Harry will rebel and crave Royal life. Haha, I wouldn't be surprised if Harry shoots himself in the foot.

I'm not a hater. I just like the truth me too maddy.

By the way, I’m not a hater. I just like the truth.

Meghan has form on notifying the press in order to be photographed. She appeared at the memorial of children shot in a school in Texas. Parents interviewed were not happy about her ‘mission’ to the memorial as they said she was nothing to do with any of them and was intruding. The press filmed her there. How did they know she would be there and at what time without notification? Photographers followed Meghan and Harry in an American serviceman cemetery on the British Remembrance Day (America has a different date) and photographed them there. How did photographers know they were there unless they were notified? Photographers followed Meghan and Harry on a charity food give away during Covid. How did they know they were there unless they were notified? There are other examples but you get the picture.

Smileless2012

There's a huge difference between events being broadcast because tv cameras were, there as opposed to American tv cameras being notified in advance to ensure that they would be there volver, if that was the case.

I'm sure her GC looked sad because they were. Their GM had died.

Quite!

Yes indeed volver. It was a very sad time for the royal family, and also for thousands upon thousands of ordinary people. Although I would prefer a republic, I can understand that people were sad and needed to grieve in their own way. The press have reported that the Queen planned her own funeral down to the last detail. It was certainly very ostentatious in my view, but it was what she wanted and as our HofS who reigned for seventy years, I think that was okay. I hope our next state funeral will not be so ostentatious or expensive.

It was a coincidence that Harry and Meghan were here, as they were apparently appearing at a couple of engagements to do with Harry’s charities. It was reported that they refused an invitation to Balmoral to see the Queen. If that is the case, Harry will have to live with that for the rest of his life. It was also reported that Harry arrived later than the others at Balmoral because he wasted time trying to persuade Charles that Meghan should go with him. Whatever, he was the last to arrive. It was reported that Harry turned down an invitation to dine with his father and brother at his father’s Scottish residence on the night of the Queen’s death and he was photographed leaving Balmoral early the next morning.

Whilst being fully aware of the foibles of the press, it seems unlikely to me that all of this has been completely made up, it is likely very near the truth and has been leaked. Some of it is verifiable by photographs. I think therefore that the royals have reached out and been rebuffed at every turn. It is also reported that Charles is very saddened by the rift between himself and Harry. As a parent, I’m sure he is devastated.

Grany

@Daily_Express

King Charles III may axe Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's titles as punishment for 'going rogue'
express.co.uk/news/royal/1689555/royal-family-live-meghan-markle-prince-harry-book-spare-king-charles-titles
😂😂😂😂

Do we want a petulant head of state fixated with nepotism and loyalty or someone who can do a serious job with independence and integrity?

For the third or maybe 4th time

Would you and the Daily whatever like to take a moment to read the Deprivation of Titles Act 1917.

Or do you and the Daily whatever prefer to spout anything that
makes a sound bite🙄

Do we want a Head of State elected by people who can’t be bothered about Parliamentary Acts?

There's a huge difference between events being broadcast because tv cameras were, there as opposed to American tv cameras being notified in advance to ensure that they would be there volver, if that was the case.

I'm sure her GC looked sad because they were. Their GM had died.

Smileless2012

What some see as a PR stunt, others see as an act of inclusion Glorianny.

If that was the case lemsip it casts H & M in a very bad light doesn't it. Notifying US tv so that they could be filmed paying their 'respects' to H's GM.

How do you feel about the fact that the RF's every move was on BBC TV every minute for days? That we got to see teenagers standing by their granny's coffin looking sad? That we got scenes of sad crowds and lined up tractors? And that blooming pony.

It's all a PR stunt. All of it.

@Daily_Express

King Charles III may axe Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's titles as punishment for 'going rogue'
express.co.uk/news/royal/1689555/royal-family-live-meghan-markle-prince-harry-book-spare-king-charles-titles
😂😂😂😂

Do we want a petulant head of state fixated with nepotism and loyalty or someone who can do a serious job with independence and integrity?

Prince Harry ceased being the Spare immediately Prince George was born.

Princess Charlotte is now the Spare with Prince Louis as the Spare’s Spare I wonder if either of them we’ll write their memoirs of how it feels?

MissAdventure

How,does anyone know that a phone call was made, though?

And that’s the problem.
How do we know anything, except what we actually see, rather than hearsay spread by the whispers method. You could see the Oprah business, or the Diana interview, though that is now said to have been manipulated.
Those who think H&M have behaved badly will believe anything that proves them right. Those who think they have been badly treated will believe anything that supports that view.
It keeps GN busy and the magazines and newspapers selling so that means people keeping their mind active and providing jobs in these hard times so at least that’s two positives.

What some see as a PR stunt, others see as an act of inclusion Glorianny.

If that was the case lemsip it casts H & M in a very bad light doesn't it. Notifying US tv so that they could be filmed paying their 'respects' to H's GM.