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THE BRAND NEW 2024 50 BOOK CHALLENGE

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TerriBull Mon 01-Jan-24 06:49:34

Good Morning and a Happy New Year to all.

Well here it is on this new year's day, the brand new 50 book challenge and hope that all our regular posters will continue to contribute and anyone new who enjoys their books will consider joining us.

For the benefit of anyone who isn't familiar with this thread, I will run through my introductory spiel. Firstly I would like to point out that if you are someone who thinks that you wouldn't read 50 books in a year but would still be interested in joining in, don't let that number put you off, do come here and join us anyway, particularly if you think you would enjoy ongoing discussions about books which is the essence of this book challenge. This is a thread that I filched from MN, over there they have two threads running concurrently, one for 50 books a year and one for 25. Our reading community here on GN is relatively small so I think it's preferable to keep us as one group allowing for the fact that we all read at different rates, given time constraints or whatever else we have going on in our lives.

The choice of books you opt for is entirely up to you, anything is permissible, fiction, non fiction and I would particularly like to stress your reading material doesn't have to be a novel if you want to opt for something factual, biographies, memoirs, even a children's book if you want to revisit a childhood favourite maybe, audio/Audible. Again how you post is down to you, merely list your books, maybe a brief description, or feel free to waffle on, I do, particularly if I've been enthused about a book I've read. Sometimes we interject and comment on other posters choices, more often than not agreeing with their opinions, and taking up recommendations, occasionally interjecting with our own dislike of maybe one they have favoured, but always with a view of agreeing to disagree. Books as with most other forms of entertainment are subjective and will of course divide opinions as well.

I hope I have outlined all the relevant points for anyone who is contemplating joining us and I would like to wish everyone a happy year's reading and all the best for 2024.

TerriBull Sun 17-Mar-24 13:39:55

Sara1954

Well a lot of Booker winners are questionable in my opinion, but I have to say I wouldn’t put Hotel Du Lac in that category.
Funny how are opinions differ so much.

Questionable Booker winners, I've read a few, which left me scratching my head as to what it was I was missing!

I also agree, about opinions differing regarding books, inevitable really. I would just add that I am an Anita Brookner fan, I have enjoyed many of her books.

Sara1954 Sun 17-Mar-24 13:31:42

Well a lot of Booker winners are questionable in my opinion, but I have to say I wouldn’t put Hotel Du Lac in that category.
Funny how are opinions differ so much.

Jaxjacky Sun 17-Mar-24 12:47:23

#12 The Night She Disappeared - Lisa Jewell. Started last week, so I’ve nearly finished, it’s a pleasant read, I’ve not guessed whodunnit, well, I don’t think so, we’ll see!

TerriBull Sun 17-Mar-24 12:21:14

I've enjoyed many Anita Brookner's, I agree with you though Diggindoris, I found Hotel du Lac, very underwhelming, yes! Why did it win The Booker Prize?hmm

Sara1954 Sun 17-Mar-24 12:15:15

Diggingdoris
This was the book which lead me to read every book Anita Brookner ever wrote, I loved it.

Diggingdoris Sun 17-Mar-24 11:54:19

20-Hotel de Lac-Anita Brookner. Saw this bedraggled copy in my phone box swap shelf and thought that it must be a good read and knew it is classed as a classic. Well I know we all have different tastes in the books we read, but I have never been so disappointed. It seemed so slow and dull with very little dialogue, and I would have abandoned it but thought as it's only 185 pages I would keep going as it might get better. Maybe we are spoilt these days with fast moving exciting stories, but I couldn't see why it had won the Booker prize.
So not for me I'm afraid, but I apologize to any Anita Brookner fans, and I can see from another page that there are lots of you that love her style.

Sparklefizz Sun 17-Mar-24 10:14:50

Book 23 The Editor's Wife by Clare Chambers.
I enjoyed her book "Small Pleasures" but "The Editor's Wife" didn't seem to know where it was going, and I wouldn't recommend it.

I did finish it, but after reading 3 Sue Gee books recently which are a hard act to follow, this book by Clare Chambers didn't measure up.

Hellogirl1 Sat 16-Mar-24 22:20:42

Book 46, The Wise Child, by Jessica Stirling. A good read, but not sure where the title came from.

Sara1954 Sat 16-Mar-24 13:18:37

I agree as well, really loved Exiles, Survivors, not so much, but still enjoyed it.

Sparklefizz Sat 16-Mar-24 13:11:21

AliBeeee I loved Exiles and agree that it was better than Survivors but I have liked all of her books.

AliBeeee Sat 16-Mar-24 12:07:35

My #17 was Exiles by Jane Harper. Another story following federal investigator Aaron Falks in small town Australia.
A new mother disappears from a festival leaving her baby alone in her pram. The book is set one year after her disappearance. Falk suspects her disappearance is not all as it seems and gets drawn into investigation and into the life of the small town.
I really enjoyed this, it was better than her previous book Survivors, though I did work out both the twists before getting to the end. 8/10

Diggingdoris Fri 15-Mar-24 21:27:20

19-A Wife's Courage-Kitty Neale-This is the third story based round the Battersea Tavern. A real eye-opener to what life was like during the war years. The women in these 3 novels all have problems of one sort or another, but they help and support each other through thick and thin, gradually becoming strong characters. I have found these books very enjoyable. I've learned lots about wartime London, and the characters are colourful, making me laugh and cry and admire the way women had to cope while the men were fighting the war. I'm usually a thriller/crime fan but I'm so pleased I found these books. Well worth a read.

Calendargirl Fri 15-Mar-24 19:58:04

#18. The Stranger Diaries by Elly Griffiths.

TerriBull Fri 15-Mar-24 11:37:02

15 My Name is Barbra -Barbara Streisand (Audible)

I thought I was never going to get to the end of this shock I've been listening to it since the beginning of the year, mainly when cooking and ironing, maybe I just don't do enough of either grin which is why this audio book seemed to last a lifetime, well Barbra's lifetime, she's packed a lot in!

I remember her making a marked impression on me from the first days of Funny Girl, not only for her unconventional beauty, but also she was my namesake, a name I wasn't overly fond of until she became such a presence, customising it by dropping a vowel, I kind of wanted to copy that at the time, after all that vowel wasn't really necessary, but no, there was only one Barbra and undoubtedly she was unique in her heyday.

I preferred her recounting of her early years, which were somewhat impoverished and dysfunctional. Her father died when she was very young and the lack of father-daughter relationship that was never to be, because of his early demise seemed to be something she yearned for all of her life. He, as an academic was clearly someone who she desperately aspired to emulate and although he was lost to her from an early age, she felt his presence in so many ways over the years, that comes across very much in this book. She had a difficult relationship with her mother who she presents as critical and un-supportive and found the force of nature that was Barbra as a daughter far too difficult to handle. Into her childhood came a step father and there was no preamble to that pivotal change in her life, one minute he wasn't there and then he was, when he was out of the blue introduced to Barbra as her mother's new husband when they picked her up from summer camp when she was about 8. There was no love lost between her and this newly unwelcome man in her life, in fact he barely acknowledged her presence or referred to her by name and when he did was always disparaging. It was a fairly short- lived relationship before he abandoned her mother, leaving her with 3 children, Barbra, her older brother and a new half sister. With little means of support the family found themselves squashed into a small Brooklyn apartment with her maternal grandparents.

Barbra's burning ambition was always to be an actress, the singing was merely a byproduct of that. In fact she goes to great pains to say, in spite of having the wonderful voice she has, she doesn't really enjoy singing, it's not something she does in the shower, singing to her is work only! Armed with an abundance of talent and a shed load tenacity she managed to realise her ambition, eventually landing the role on stage of Fanny Brice in Funny Girl and the rest is pretty much history.

So that was the first and probably, for me, the most interesting part of her memoir, she was pretty candid in what she revealed even to mention that she did a bit of casual shoplifting in her poorer days, and for which she is highly embarrassed about now, but that all came to an abrupt ending when she almost got caught. She talked about her first marriage to Elliot Gould when they were both very young when they met on stage, he struggled to get recognition in the wake of her rapid ascent, trailing behind and their eventual split, drifting apart through various factors such as working apart too often and his descent into drugs. Of course he did find his feet eventually and his career took off too and the marriage gave her, her adored son Jason who she is clearly very close to.

There were snippets about the close friendships she formed with various well known names, Marlon Brando, Omar Sharif her co star in Funny Girl and the shared kiss on film, and quite a few off set, that caused ructions for him in his native Egypt, possibly they found that romantic interaction between a Jewish woman and a Arabic man a step too far sad She doesn't really define whether either of those were lovers or just good friends, Robert Redford is another close male relationship but that was and is definitely just a close friendship.

Where I think the book gets bogged down is the somewhat tedious detail about filming, and to a lesser extent recording, she knew how and what she wanted but her vision wasn't always shared by directors and producers. The Way We Were, and the two films she directed herself Yentl and The Prince of Tides, I'd never seen the later two, but she practically went through them frame by frame, I did think, "no need to now, they been described in such fine detail, they'll be no surprises" She is indeed lavish of her praise of those behind the scenes, particularly cinematographers who went to the enth degree in helping her achieve her end result, and much of that praise went to the English crews she worked with at different junctures, and it does seem she is an avowed anglophile with a love of London and England per se. Contrastingly she has also, clashed swords with many along the way, a whole host of directors, writers and comes across as quite chippy in her view of those with dissenting views to her own, stating that much of that is because she is a woman, which could well be a fair assessment, but at times she presents a very pedantic side of herself. but I'm sure she won't be the only person in Hollywood who hasn't always enjoyed good working relationships. All of this is relayed in immense details, way too much imo, the problem is when it's an audio book you can never know how long a particular section will go on for, if I'd had the physical book, I'd definitely skipped over such overly detailed interludes. I couldn't help thinking taking into account how she's given the reader an insight into the control she exercises over her directorial work, whether the editorial staff at Penguin/Random House tried delicately put it to her that her mighty tome could be trimmed down I conjured up her dulcet Brooklyn toned reply in my head "not a word!"

She has in her own words kept journals, such detail of happenings decades ago would be lost in the mists of time for most people. There is a lot of intricate information about her gowns, her collecting of antiques, paintings even, she is a great fan and sometimes collector of Klimt and Modigliani in fact there was a painting that she really wanted by the latter and was so upset when she couldn't get it, claimed "well I'll just paint it myself" which I kind of found highly amusing in a "I really wanted that Michelangelo but I couldn't afford it, so I'll just have to paint it myself" sort of way grin

One of her other great interests is politics and formed very close friendships with not only Bill and Hillary Clinton, but Bill's late mother who was almost a surrogate mother to her, not getting on very well with her own, she related a story about how when she was doing a New Year Eve benefit concert having invited her own mother, who did arrive at the venue but after a while left saying something along the lines of "It's NYE I don't want to be hanging around here I want to go out and have a good time" one of the many slights her mother dealt her but Bill Clinton's mother gave her the matriarchal support that her own mother couldn't give her.

Her wealth has given her the opportunity to be philanthropic and throw her weight behind some very good causes, one in particular i remember, putting money into how heart attacks present differently in women after she found out that little research had been done on that. I hadn't really followed her over the years, so much of this was unknown to me. She is an avowed democrat and understandably is repulsed by the ascent of Trump who amongst his other vices she proclaims as a liar. Her loathing of lying is something that reoccurs again and again, because, in her words her mother lied to her as a child, and whilst I understand her loathing of Trumps untruths, it did stand out that in her lavish praise of Bill Clinton which is pretty ongoing, his porky pies seemed to wash over her somewhat. Similarly, as an avowed feminist, his shabby treatment of women didn't get a mention.

Apart from Bill Clinton she formed close relationships with other politicians, the late Pierre Trudeau and Shimon Peres, to name but two. For Barbra like many Jewish people, Israel was a kind of spiritual home, she went there quite a few times for concerts and benefits and even sets up an educational foundation in her father's name. and whilst she winds her memoirs up lamenting the state of the world, I did wonder as a liberal Democrat of how she perceives the current parlous state Middle East relations under the auspices of the intransigence that is displayed between Netanyahu and Hamas.

The final part of her memoirs is pretty much devoted to her happy marriage of nearly 25 years to the actor James Brolin and the contented blissful life they share.

All in all an interesting life, but too heavy on technical detail which I imagine is of little interest to those not involved in the world of filming. It wasn't the joy to read, or in this case listen to, that I have found other biographies. For example the last one I read, One, Two, Three, Four, The Beatles In Time, far less weighted down in tedium which made it so much more of a pleasure, that's my opinion. If you aren't a Streisand fan I wouldn't bother.

Bit of a lengthy review, but a lot of words need a lot of words!

dogsmother Thu 14-Mar-24 18:18:23

The Valkyries by Paulo Coelho. Although I’d read it years ago just read it again as it’s sort of weird but good. Somehow makes me think of being a very adult children’s fairytale.
I must try and recall how many I’m up to now!

Hellogirl1 Thu 14-Mar-24 17:52:25

Book 45, yet another by Josephine Cox, Rainbow Days, enjoyed it.

Musicgirl Thu 14-Mar-24 14:48:50

#11 was The Last Goodbye by Tim Weaver, the latest in his David Raker series. Raker is an ex-journalist who investigates missing people. This one, as well as being the usual nail- biting thriller, also ties up a lot of loose ends. I do hope there are more to come.

Calendargirl Thu 14-Mar-24 14:47:07

#17. Bleeding Heart Yard by Elly Griffiths.

Sara1954 Thu 14-Mar-24 09:51:28

JackyB
I love the Regeneration series, I’ve enjoyed everything she’s written, I seem to have had a run of depressing books, but I didn’t really find Regeneration depressing, more just sad.

Parsley3 Thu 14-Mar-24 09:08:12

Book 13 The Raging Storm by Ann Cleeves.
She is such a good writer.

JackyB Thu 14-Mar-24 08:52:16

Some of you have recommended Pat Barker so I have just read "Regeneration" as this seemed to be one of the first of her books. It was a very depressing story about a psychiatrist who was treating shell-shocked soldiers from the front in WWI, many of them actual characters, moxy notably Siegfried Sassoon. We had so much of this stuff force-fed to us at school, but I plodded on. In the end I found it not terribly satisfying as a story - and there were far too many people in it!

Can anyone recommend any other of her books which might be more rewarding to read?

Sara1954 Wed 13-Mar-24 21:22:01

Book 14
Shuggie Bain - Douglas Stuart
On the cover of this book it says ‘A novel of rare and lasting beauty’
There is not one single word in this whole book that could possibly bring the word ‘Beauty’ to mind.
It’s a book about poverty, cruelty, neglect, bullying, alcohol abuse and some of the most awful bunch of hopeless characters you could come across.
Shuggie is an unusual boy, devoted to his alcoholic mother, his life is relentlessly terrible, bullied, neglected and constantly scared.
It’s well written, I read through it quite quickly, but it left me feeling sad at the hopelessness of so many people’s lives, which hold no joy, no pleasure but the drink.

Hellogirl1 Wed 13-Mar-24 18:37:11

Book 44, Miss You Forever, by Josephine Cox. I`m starting to look forward to her books.

Sara1954 Wed 13-Mar-24 18:07:03

SueDonim
I have just finished Old Gods time, and I felt the same, how could one man deserve so much tragedy.
The writing was beautiful, but I was also occasionally confused, not sure if something had actually happened, or if it was imaginary or supernatural.

SueDonim Wed 13-Mar-24 14:55:39

No 8 Old God’s Time by Sebastian Barry. I know the writing was beautiful, but it was so depressing. I was just about 30 pages from the end and thinking ‘well surely nothing else can go wrong’ but it did! Also gave me horrible dreams last night. I need to stop reading books by Irish writers, I think, I find them all so gloomy.

Tomorrow I’ll be discussing it at book group.

I’ve picked up something light and frivolous for 99p on Kindle as a contrast.

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