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Is Children in Need drowning the many smaller charities?

(58 Posts)
Margs Wed 14-Nov-18 11:23:58

The run up to Children in Need Day starts way, way back in the year and gathers speed in October and is running at breakneck level by November - I feel the thousands of other charities hardly get a look in from the beginning of Autumn onwards.

Plus, it's doubtful that all but the bigger charities can come even close to trying to match the resources of the BBC when it comes to planning their various appeals campaigns. Certainly not the wall-to-wall coverage that the Beeb gives via radio & TV, and funded by the license fees too.

I wonder if Children in Need shares any of it's donations with the other charities (and not only for children but elderly, disabled, animals etc?)

quizqueen Thu 15-Nov-18 10:45:58

I think quite a lot of charities have been revealed to be corrupt and greedy. I only ever give to animal related charities (and occasionally a medical charity) now because they suffer such cruelty and hardship from the human race who think they are more important. Unless you are so severely disabled that you cannot do any thing for yourself there is generally no reason for anyone to go with out in this country if the right choices are made. Unfortunately, many do not make good choices but I do not see it then as my responsibility to bail them out. In my opinion, the welfare state is far too generous to those 'who make the wrong choices' as it is. I never give to foreign aid either. The UK gives 27 million pounds A DAY in foreign aid and this is money the country has to borrow to do so. Much of it seems to be wasted too.

Lancslass1 Thu 15-Nov-18 10:49:00

What I find most upsetting is the amount of money the CEOs of the various Charities are not earning in my opinion but are getting.

Chewbacca Thu 15-Nov-18 10:50:17

Never have, never will watch it. I have 3 local charities that I support every month and I know that my donations reach where they're meant to, not some monolithic administration.

PECS Thu 15-Nov-18 10:58:02

CiN distributes funds to other smaller local charitable organisations that probably would not get as much from their smaller campaigns

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/psvxkB6QDMK63pgHmP5RJF/who-you-help

LuckyFour Thu 15-Nov-18 11:03:22

Never give to charities, I don't like the very, very high salaries paid to Chief execs etc. Ludicrous.

PECS Thu 15-Nov-18 11:04:04

quizqueen here is a chart about tax spend. Compared to other expenditure overseas aid is small! As a nominally Christian country I think we should demonstrate the values we are supposed to espouse!

PECS Thu 15-Nov-18 11:05:01

Not wear a poppy for the British Legion???

grandmac Thu 15-Nov-18 11:26:52

Only give to small local charities and ones like Shelterbox and Smalls for All. They seem better than the rest but I might be wrong.

madmum38 Thu 15-Nov-18 11:32:09

My family each year do the Alzheimer’s memory walk because of their dad but trying to get sponsors is getting near impossible,they even had a local paper interview as they were all still young when it started with him but even then they raised just over £30

Craftycat Thu 15-Nov-18 12:02:42

I'd rather give to something like CiN than a charity who bombard you with costly coloured bumf sent through the post if you have donated to them just once. I throw away so many of these unopened- they even come in magazines etc.
Such a waste of their resources that should be spent on the needy.
I prefer to chose charities where the money is spent in this country where possible unless there is some sort of disaster.

Chicklette Thu 15-Nov-18 12:26:25

I work for a tiny charity. It’s a Child Contact Centre, arranging contact for separated families who, for whatever reason, can’t make their own arrangements. I am the only paid employee, and I earn very little. We have no regular income and I have to fundraise every penny. I’ve applied in the past to CIN. Once we got through the first stage and I had to have a one hour telephone interview. We were then turned down. We can’t send photos etc as our service is confidential. It’s really hard trying to raise enough to keep us afloat. Our overheads aren’t high. But for this reason CIN annoys me because they have so much money, but I feel it’s unfair to keep so much in reserve when small charities are in such dire need. And the amount the executives in these large charities earn is disgusting.

Granny23 Thu 15-Nov-18 12:34:01

Can I second everything that Jo1960 said. I also worked for Women's Aid as one of 2 'paid workers' the rest being volunteers or 'unpaid workers'. In addition to my paid work I put in more hours unpaid, filling in on On Call when no one else was available, going out in the night to pick up families or give support in the refuge when there was a problem. Also, spending free time researching and completing Grant Applications to CiN, The Lottery, etc. etc. with perhaps 1 in 3 applications proving successful. We would perhaps get a year's funding for an Outreach or Children's Worker but after 6 months, when that worker had built up experience and was doing a brilliant job, we had to start looking for further funding for the next year, often unsuccessfully because Funders prefer a 'New Project'

We also undertook our own local fundraising - stalls at carboots and Galas etc. a small thrift shop, etc. Also were often the nominated Charity at Christmas for some businesses, the Inner Wheel, churches, etc. This last source of income dried up completely when it became much easier for these donors to organise events and collections for CiN. Therefore I try my best to avoid donating to CiN (hard to avoid at times) preferring to donate directly to small local Charities where I know that ALL of the donation will be put to good use immediately.

TellNo1Ok Thu 15-Nov-18 12:34:17

I don't think charities are getting "greedy" ..
i think the need for charity and charities is growing exponentially hence the oh so frequent requests...

children in need certainly is a massive fund raiser but it also tries very hard to include so many participants... and offer so many events ... it tries to touch all of us ... not just those in need of our charity ..

support what you can where you can is my motto... and in emergencies support again ....

grannytotwins Thu 15-Nov-18 12:56:31

I agree with Hilda. We are a small charity and CIN do so much to help us to help our local children. We are able to provide school holiday care for those most in need for the nominal sum of £4 a day including a hot, freshly cooked two course lunch and snacks. We couldn’t manage without CIN!

DIL17 Thu 15-Nov-18 13:02:46

It's complete personal choice as to who is supported.

Children In Need has grown and that means that they can help a range of people across the country and with a range of problems.

I don't think it drowns other charities out I think it highlights the importance of giving to causes that you feel passionate about.

amt101 Thu 15-Nov-18 13:28:04

I never give to TV fund raising and try to check how much the CEOs of charities are paid. There is a charities commission and someone I know worked there said you’d never give if you knew what went on.
Fund raising for heart and cancer is good but why isn’t research carried out under the NHS?

luluaugust Thu 15-Nov-18 14:05:18

Just a couple of local charities for me, I do think CiN enables us to see projects we would never hear of otherwise.

Jaycee5 Thu 15-Nov-18 14:07:41

Granny23 The 'New Project' issue is a real problem for charities applying for grants. They mainly need funding to keep going or to expand existing projects but virtually all grant organisations want a new project. It is hard enough to find one that your charity meets the general criteria for without having to create a new project. I found the whole thing very frustrating. It is not so bad if they ask for an initial email but some organisations want a virtual thesis. One organisation I applied to said that they liked what the charity was doing but they were two years behind with the grants that they had already approved which begs the question as to why they were still accepting new applications.

Telly Thu 15-Nov-18 15:09:47

Thinking about this, a while ago I remember reading about the origins of Telephons (any sort of charity phone in) in the US. One thing the organisers decided that they had to 'make them cry' to get the audience to donate.

jenpax Thu 15-Nov-18 15:20:16

Jo1960 My feelings exactly! I have worked for charities virtually all my working life including for a DV charity and I completely agree with everything you said ?

pixie601 Thu 15-Nov-18 16:09:33

I donate to our local Highland Hospice and Mary's Meals those are the only two charities I support. I'm not paying outrageous salaries to the 'fund raisers' or paying to decorate offices where the fat cats can gather in comfort. Too much money is wasted on vanity projects and salaries - well not from me!

GabriellaG Thu 15-Nov-18 17:01:05

All charities have overheads but with some, it's more than just business, it's BIG business.
I wonder what proportion of donations go to the actual target and what goes on advertising, salaries, buildings and admin et al.
I give a set amount to KSSAIR RNLI and the Sally Army, volunteer with Crisis and Samaritans, collect for the BL in November and donate blood. I don't give to these huge monolithic charities which hand around the begging bowl every Christmas season.
When the envelopes stuffed with tat ie: biros, penguin beer mats, 'Xmas' stickers etc and 'file' photos of half starved children etc come through my letterbox, they don't even get opened. Fodder for recycling.
Each to their own.

Rosina Thu 15-Nov-18 17:19:43

I watched it for the first time and was disgusted by a sketch with a female newsreader and two so called 'comedians' who clearly embarrassed her horribly by relentlessly waving a large penis shaped balloon in her face. This was supposed to be humour - I switched off, and as it was before the 9 o clock watershed I did wonder what the BBC thought it was doing.
A friend who is an accountant worked for several large charities and was horrified at the amounts paid to senior staff. He cancelled his donations and now gives money to a local school for the disabled - he helps to buy whatever they need directly.

PECS Thu 15-Nov-18 17:33:15

The top 10 paid charity CEOs include hospital / medical foundations:Wellcome Trust/ London Hospital/ Nuffield Health type places & Royal Opera House!

quizqueen what made you so bitter?

Wheniwasyourage Thu 15-Nov-18 18:02:27

Someone I knew worked for a branch of what was the the RSSPCC (now Children 1st) and she said that Children in Need would give to set up a project, but then not help with ongoing funding for it. Before applying, therefore, they had to think very hard about whether or not they could afford to continue funding such projects themselves.

Yet again, I recommend the Charities Aid Foundation as a way of giving anonymously to charities, which then can't get at you because they don't know who you are.