Why aren't these Charities Government Funded?

I’m with Casdon in being happy to have taxis increased according to our ability to pay. I’d rather the funds raised were put into repairing the unholy mess our public services are in because of the actions of the Conservative governments in 12 years

Given restraints, I’d be ok with maintaining charitable status for the agencies mentioned here, including hospice.

Given that Government doesn't seem to be running well what it already has responsibility for, I find it odd that people want to give more power to politicians.

I agree with Iam64. If more taxes were to be raised, and it’s a big if because I think we’re taxed highly enough already, but if more taxes were raised I would rather it went into the public services that are already so short of money, social work, NHS, schools and education.

Here the things the government has control of are subject to ever increasing bureaucracy such that people don’t have time to do their jobs- they are too busy reporting and entering irrelevant data . If they fail to do that they get their funding cut. I know this first hand

Baggs

Given that Government doesn't seem to be running well what it already has responsibility for, I find it odd that people want to give more power to politicians.

Is funding Air Ambulance centrally giving the government more power? I’d be very happy if Welsh Air Ambulance was run by Welsh Government.
For hospices, I’d just like to see a lot more public money allocated to support them so they can stay afloat. If charitable donations in the UK continue to decline as they are doing we will see hospices go bankrupt and close, which would be tragic for the people who need them.

It’s pretty tragic for the tiny children who are killed by their parents because social work isn’t funded properly and therefore interventions aren’t able to be put in place. We need to fund the services we’ve got properly before we take on others.

maddyone

It’s pretty tragic for the tiny children who are killed by their parents because social work isn’t funded properly and therefore interventions aren’t able to be put in place. We need to fund the services we’ve got properly before we take on others.

It’s also pretty tragic to die on a mountain or at the scene of a road accident because nobody can rescue you. Think it through, one life doesn’t have more value than another.

Casdon

maddyone

It’s pretty tragic for the tiny children who are killed by their parents because social work isn’t funded properly and therefore interventions aren’t able to be put in place. We need to fund the services we’ve got properly before we take on others.

It’s also pretty tragic to die on a mountain or at the scene of a road accident because nobody can rescue you. Think it through, one life doesn’t have more value than another.

People who climb mountains, go caving or go out to sea for fun are usually adults who have a choice. Sometimes, not always, they act irresponsibly and thankfully there are wonderful, courageous volunteers prepared to rescue these people if they get into trouble.

Tiny children living in dysfunctional families who may be subject to daily terror, abuse and even death, have no choice and we, as a nation, have a duty of care towards them and should properly fund the services to enable them to receive help and, if necessary, be rescued.

Callistemon21

Casdon

maddyone

It’s pretty tragic for the tiny children who are killed by their parents because social work isn’t funded properly and therefore interventions aren’t able to be put in place. We need to fund the services we’ve got properly before we take on others.

It’s also pretty tragic to die on a mountain or at the scene of a road accident because nobody can rescue you. Think it through, one life doesn’t have more value than another.

People who climb mountains, go caving or go out to sea for fun are usually adults who have a choice. Sometimes, not always, they act irresponsibly and thankfully there are wonderful, courageous volunteers prepared to rescue these people if they get into trouble.

Tiny children living in dysfunctional families who may be subject to daily terror, abuse and even death, have no choice and we, as a nation, have a duty of care towards them and should properly fund the services to enable them to receive help and, if necessary, be rescued.

Of course, I don’t disagree that social services should be funded properly, apart from anything else safeguarding is a statutory requirement so whatever else isn’t funded the statutory elements will be. A lot of the issues in children’s services at local government level aren’t about funding social workers per se though, are they, they are about failure to recruit and retain staff because the job is nigh on impossible to perform, particularly now the funding for support services in the community is so squeezed and charities are closing. There’s a disproportionate effect on young families.
Air Ambulance does a lot more than just rescue people off mountains though. They are regularly out rescuing people after industrial and road accidents for example.

Yes, I agree the Air Ambulance should be properly funded as part of the NHS.

The son of a friend of ours was taken by the Air Ambulance to hospital after an accident for which they were all very thankful. Waiting for an ordinary ambulance would have proved fatal.

Callistemon21

Yes, I agree the Air Ambulance should be properly funded as part of the NHS.

The son of a friend of ours was taken by the Air Ambulance to hospital after an accident for which they were all very thankful. Waiting for an ordinary ambulance would have proved fatal.

They do a lot of rescues, I know somebody who had a very serious accident on his tractor who they rescued too.

I agree that all deaths are tragic in these circumstances but I believe it’s best to carry on with certain things being charitable and others state funded. I feel any extra funding should be put towards services that are already state run.
In any case, extra funding seems to be light years away at the moment and sadly social work will continue to suffer.
It’s best to leave things as they are I think and let the the charities do their work.

Funding is intrinsically linked to the pressures on children’s (and 0ther) services. L.A’s can’t meet statutory responsibilities. The gateposts on the level of risk before intervention get wider by the week. La run family centres that used to support families closed thanks to austerity. Voluntary family support diminished because charitable donations are reducing.

Of course air ambulance should be funded. Ours landed nearby after a serious road accident

Sazzl said Also Mountain rescue should be military, but can see that lifeboats do often need people with experience of their coastal locations.

This just wouldn’t work. Living in an area with a very active mountain rescue team, I know that the people who man it know their patch like the back of their hands, the lay of the land, the weather systems, the accessibility and so on. Often they’ve lived in the area for 30/40 years and there’s nothing they don’t know.

Asking a military team from Hampshire to rescue a mountain climber in Cairngorm would be ridiculous and likely lead to even more deaths.

Air Ambulance and RNLI are funded. Charitably.

Given government incompetence, there is no good reason for those organisations to change the funding (fundraising) approach they have already which avoids government interference.

It is a mistake to think that only leisure users of mountains and the sea need the help of the RNLI or Air Ambulance.

Ptofessional fishermen, merchant seamen and others making their living from the sea benefit from the life saving services of the RNLI and Air ambulances regulalryy attend road accidents and all kinds of emergencies, from heart attacks to women in labour, where the quickest way to get the patient to hospital is by helicopter.

We had an air ambulance land on our village green a few months ago to take someone to hospital urgently. I think at the time we had gridlock on local roads and an ambulance could not get through.

Because charities are a way of extracting more cash from the public over and above what government dares to take.

I think government-managed charities would be vulnerable to political interference: the Tories don't like being reminded about food bank usage so they could close them down. It might be possible to spend more tax on charities if the giving decisions could be well insulated from the politicians. The National Lottery schemes are fairly well insulated though I suspect susceptible to government pressure.