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MoonStone93 Sun 10-Nov-24 12:07:01

In honour of my father I never miss the Remembrance Sunday Service at the cenotaph. Today has been no exception but as I watched I noticed one of our politicians, I believe he was there on behalf of the SNP, without a "programme" and who did not join in with any of the hymns, prayers or the national anthem.
I am a firm believer that how people conduct themselves and what they believe in is their business but this man looked like he didn't want to be there and his behaviour was not in the spirit of the occasion. Today's gathering, as always, is to respect and remember our forebears. This man looked churlish and disrespectful. I wish he'd stayed at home and allowed someone who really did want to pay their respects attend in his place.

madalene Sat 16-Nov-24 11:40:13

I’m wondering why, given that the SNP and Plaid Cymru have an arrangement to be represented together, why other smaller parties couldn’t be represented together. So the Greens, Reform, and any Independents could be represented by one MP each year, possibly taking turns to be the actual representative.
It might make everyone feel their party or themselves if Independent, feel they were represented at the Cenotaph.

Wyllow3 Sat 16-Nov-24 11:03:02

tattygran14

Was Starmer there?

Of course he was, all day.
It was Sunak who came home early and criticised for it

Allira Sat 16-Nov-24 10:55:13

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ronib Sat 16-Nov-24 10:53:42

Allira I am afraid that when talking about Nigel Farage and spending the whole day in Normandy for D Day, you replied
“Oh goodness. Well done “
Which confused me but Nanna 8 objected etc. Nigel Farage spends every D Day in Normandy as a matter of course. It seems. I don’t think he sees it as anything unusual. Etc

Allira Sat 16-Nov-24 10:27:56

nanna8

11 th of November is a day to remember and pay respect to those who fought and sometimes died fighting on behalf of our countries. I had a father flying aircraft plus a mother and many other relatives in the RAF. Some died. I would thank people to reserve their petty squabbles for another time and place. What’s wrong with you ?

👏👏👏

I've noticed even if you agree with someone on here and express approbation then it is questioned.

tattygran14 Sat 16-Nov-24 10:22:11

Was Starmer there?

OldFrill Tue 12-Nov-24 01:12:16

Allira

If his haircut is the only thing which disrespectful then that truly is nitpicking.

Flynn should learn a few manners from the redoubtable but respectful Ian Blackford.

Ian Blackford has been thoroughly discredited. Reeking of scandals and underhand behaviour. Also his treatment of Charles Kennedy was entirely unforgivable. He could teach Flynn hypocrisy.

OldFrill Tue 12-Nov-24 00:48:02

It's actually all over MSM as well as social media. It's ridiculous the amount of attention it's getting. Though it will calm down now as the new news is Archbishop Welby taking us all for mugs and Gary Linekar resigning from Match of the Day🙄

nanna8 Mon 11-Nov-24 22:49:15

11 th of November is a day to remember and pay respect to those who fought and sometimes died fighting on behalf of our countries. I had a father flying aircraft plus a mother and many other relatives in the RAF. Some died. I would thank people to reserve their petty squabbles for another time and place. What’s wrong with you ?

ronib Mon 11-Nov-24 22:43:04

What do you mean well done? Allira

Allira Mon 11-Nov-24 22:32:52

ronib

Farage goes to Normandy each year for D Day and manages to stay for the whole day, unlike some!!

Oh, goodness!
Well done.

ronib Mon 11-Nov-24 22:31:48

Farage goes to Normandy each year for D Day and manages to stay for the whole day, unlike some!!

Allira Mon 11-Nov-24 22:25:28

Why was Farage not laying a wreath in his own constituency?
Perhaps he's forgotten where it is as he's never there.

Allira Mon 11-Nov-24 22:24:17

Anniebach

Plaid Cymru has 4 Members of Parliament, not represented at
the Cenotaph

Stephen Flynn was representing Plaid Cymru too, Anniebach; it's an arrangement they've had for years, apparently.

Anniebach Mon 11-Nov-24 20:52:45

Plaid Cymru has 4 Members of Parliament, not represented at
the Cenotaph

MissInterpreted Mon 11-Nov-24 20:43:38

JudyBloom

Shame on this tyrannical government to ban Nigel Farage, leader of the Reform Party, from laying a wreath at the Cenotaph on Sunday. It was cruel and unfair, Nigel had to be on a balcony instead and he would have done it with great respect. He is one of the most Patriotic members of parliament and stands for true democracy and free speech and as usual they try to put him down. His party gained far more votes than others that were allowed the privilege.

Might be a good idea to check your facts first before rushing in with all guns blazing! A party has to have at least six members of parliament to be part of the group laying wreaths at the Cenotaph. Why was Farage not laying a wreath in his own constituency?

Allira Mon 11-Nov-24 19:40:54

JudyBloom

Shame on this tyrannical government to ban Nigel Farage, leader of the Reform Party, from laying a wreath at the Cenotaph on Sunday. It was cruel and unfair, Nigel had to be on a balcony instead and he would have done it with great respect. He is one of the most Patriotic members of parliament and stands for true democracy and free speech and as usual they try to put him down. His party gained far more votes than others that were allowed the privilege.

Fake news.

A party has to have a minimum of six MPs before their leader is allowed to be part of the Parliamentary group laying a wreath at the Cenotaph. The Green Party leader was not therd either.

A decades-old protocol states each party must have at least six MPs to be able to take part in that element of the Remembrance ceremony, regardless of how many votes each party amassed overall at the last election

win Mon 11-Nov-24 19:27:01

Allira

^I do what I want to do when I want to do, as we should all do^.

Are you an elected representative of your country in the House of Commons?

Many of us do things we don't really want because we know it's the right thing to do.

I commit to doing things I want to do. So they would be the right thing to do for me or whatever/whoever I represent.

You are so confrontational in every way.

JudyBloom Mon 11-Nov-24 19:26:07

Shame on this tyrannical government to ban Nigel Farage, leader of the Reform Party, from laying a wreath at the Cenotaph on Sunday. It was cruel and unfair, Nigel had to be on a balcony instead and he would have done it with great respect. He is one of the most Patriotic members of parliament and stands for true democracy and free speech and as usual they try to put him down. His party gained far more votes than others that were allowed the privilege.

Allira Mon 11-Nov-24 18:56:53

Fleurpepper

Oreo

I don’t think Boris would be recognisable with combed hair.😄

Well he looked an absolute mess. And where is the uproar- remember the Press and all re Corbyn!

Well, actually, he didn't look an absolute mess for once. From the pictures shown since, he looks smartly dressed with his poppy placed correctly (unlike some).

It's just that he's a stranger to the hairdressing scissors. You'd think Carrie would get the clippers out.

SandyMM Mon 11-Nov-24 18:52:39

This was Mr Flynn's post on Twitter yesterday (now called X)

Stephen Flynn MP
@StephenFlynnSNP
Very proud to honour those who gave their tomorrow for our today.

The democratic rights and freedoms that those who came before us fought and died for, remain the most precious thing we all collectively own.

#RememberanceDay2024

Allira Mon 11-Nov-24 18:51:35

I do what I want to do when I want to do, as we should all do.

Are you an elected representative of your country in the House of Commons?

Many of us do things we don't really want because we know it's the right thing to do.

win Mon 11-Nov-24 18:09:40

OldFrill

Lovetopaint037

I saw SF and couldn’t believe what Iwas seeing. There he stood representing the proud Scottish nation known for their bravery in military conflict and yet making it obvious he had no intention of joining in the hymns. Where was his respect for the countless Scots fallen or maimed for life who fought on our behalf. It wasn’t about him but he made it so. By the way I am not Scottish.

You're obviously not Scottish.
He was respectful and attentive. He just didn't sing. Respecting the dead is not about singing.
I'll be voting independence next, never felt so damned patronised. Oh and I'm British but feeling very embarrassed to be reading this thread.
I'll get back to sleep.

How right you are, this is the most ridiculous thread ever. Some people don't sing, some people don't join with prayers, totally up to the individual regardless of who you respect and represent. You do as always what you feel comfortable with. I croak, there is no way I would be singing at any service, remembrance or not, I don't sing at funerals I don't join with public prayers. I do what I want to do when I want to do, as we should all do. It is certainly not a sign of respect. I have never heard such silliness.

madalene Mon 11-Nov-24 17:40:49

BJ’s hair is always like that. I suspect it’s more that a person likes/dislikes BJ as to whether they find his hair offensive. I don’t find his hair offensive, I didn’t find Michael Foot’s overcoat offensive either, nor am I upset by the royals wearing uniforms as figureheads to the armed forces.
I didn’t find SF’s behaviour offensive, but I thought it strange that he wouldn’t sing or even hold a programme with the words, making it look as though he was making a point. The remembrance service is not really the place to make a point in my opinion. Anyway, WW3 has nearly broken out on this thread, which is a shame, because we are supposed to be respectfully remembering those who served in our armed services, and especially those who didn’t return. This includes my two great uncles and my second cousin.

Fleurpepper Mon 11-Nov-24 17:26:36

Yes, so do I. And Boris looks a lot more of a mess! Where is the uproar?