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jangly Fri 22-Jul-11 10:29:55

I agree it makes some difference. But its too easy a peg for teachers to hang the blame on.

I wonder if they have to settle for poor teachers in deprived areas because the best teachers can get jobs in the more affluent areas.

Baggy Fri 22-Jul-11 09:52:30

I think you are being a bit unfair, jangly. Talk to any 'educationist' (is that a word) and they'll tell you that what makes more difference than anything else in a child's education success is parental attitude. If parents are well educated themselves or if they are not very well educated (depending on your definition; maybe it should be "open-minded about education") but are positive about the benefits of education and always encourage their kids to work hard at school and don't denigrate education — you see where I'm going? — then children will do well. Too many parents don't see the point of academic success, or they don't feel confident about helping their kids, or they just have the telly on all day long so nobody gets a chance to sit down quietly and read a book .....

Parental attitude makes all the difference! So kids from deprived backgrounds, where education is perhaps not held in such high esteem, or where it is held in high esteem but opportunities to further it are not common, are at a disadvantage.

People used to blether on about how well a certain comprehensive school in north Oxford had such good results "for a state school". Of course it bloody did! Half the kids had parents with jobs at the university. If those kids couldn't do well, who could?

In short, home background makes a HUGE difference.

jangly Fri 22-Jul-11 09:24:11

On the Today programme this morning there was a report that highlighted the differences in children's achievements in school. They had the head teacher from the highest achieving school and the head from an under achieving one. I think Brentwood and Birmingham respectively.

The argument from the Birmingham one was the same old, same old, - children coming from deprived areas, no books at home, uninterested parents.

Well, considering schools have the children from the age of three, and for six hours of each weeekday, don't you think they should be able to turn this around by now? I know they don't have a level playing field to start from, but it seems a lame argument. They have plenty of time with the children.

The underachieving school head said they were trying to "widen up the world" by paying for and taking them on a trip to France in year 9. I would hope they would have done a lot more in the way of imaginative lessons and field trips before then!

Am I being unfair?