masturbation?

I must be the exception that proves the rule!

I think last time it was researched the majority of women could not have an orgasm just by intercourse. Has to do with anatomy.

Elegran

If they do find out how to start it up they will add a secure lock and a loud alarm.

Did you known that car manufacturers have a new model? They have combined the Clio and the Taurus to create the Clitaurus.

This model is specifically for women, and its security advantages are:

Few men will be able to find it
And fewer will know how to start it up if they do!

I loved the scene in 'When Harry met Sally' where she faked an orgasm. Most women in the cinema laughed out loud but the men looked a bit taken aback!
The biggest sexual organ is the brain - most people have their favourite fantasies but some women feel guilty if they do not include their OH. As long as he never knows that you are picturing George Clooney, it will be quite all right! After all, he may be thinking of Cheryl Cole!

..at least she didn't have to pretend.....

There are still double standards, lots of articles were published in the 50s and 60s such as j-walk.com/other/goodwife/images/goodwifeguide.gif but nothing for 'The Successful Male Lover.' I believe some men thought they knew it all anyway and didn't need any guidance. I remember years ago a man discussing how he did not know women had orgasms too. It was very hard not to smile. He had been married for seven years, I guess they had communication problems amongst other things.

I'm the mother of sons, no daughters, but I've just remembered those long long showers they always took

As to the original question about the double standard: the way i remember it, out parents implied that boys were uncontrollable randy creatures, and that was just nature. But girls, well, sex was something to be avoided at all costs when single, and endured when married. Girls who enjoyed it were bad or weak. If they had sex outside of marriage they were 'giving in' to the boy, and being incredibly stupid.

This double standard ensured that girls never discussed masturbation with their friends.

Anyone see the programme - I think it was on Yesterday - about the wartime doctor who told the WAAF (I think) women how to DIY?

I have tried everything and the only "thing" that works for me is the real thing! I'm with you there Mishap.
Not just any old thing will do, it has to be of generous proportions!

I don't want to be accused of lowering the tone any further, so I will say no more!

Not everyone has a loving and sensitive partners, so DIY is necessary. I believe sitting on the washing machine on the spin cycle is quite good!
The clitoris is not the little button that protrudes - it is quite a large organ which has been much neglected and misunderstood because most of it is buried.
I hated D.H. Lawrence's description of sex - apparently Mellors took it badly because Lady Constance did it for herself - apparently Lawrence expected women to lie back and be ''pleasured'. B*ugger that for a game of soldiers!

I am intrigued by the idea that all this paraphanalia and learning might be needed to do the business - just give me a good bloke any time and I am away! - and 'twas ever thus!
My Mum gave me a book on how fruit flies reproduce by way of sex education - it lacked something really!
My children had some interesting books - the best being a Scandinavian book called Our New Baby, which was in the form of a comic strip that followed the life of a family who were to have a new baby - all the questions were answered with great charm (and they did not dodge the idea that sex was a pleasurable activity rather than a reproductive chore) and it was grounded in secure loving relationships which were part of the story. And the children in the book asked their parents questions which were answered very clearly anatomically, but also in the context of a relationship. It was a very good book - the children always got it out when their grandma offered to read them a book and she would look at me in despair! One of my offspring was particularly popular at school as she kept everyone informed!

They wouldn't have the imagination to realise that it may apply to them, probably, crimson!

nannachrissy - am i presuming that you are not talking about knitting here. The answer in that case is electronic. There are probably millions of women that learn to have orgasms with the help of a vibrator and millions more that only ever have one with the aid of a vibrator. Or a shower head. The kind that come off the wall Unless you are a pretty adept gymnast.

They sure have interesting conversations..men . Have to admit that the only man in my life who gave me a great time in the bedroom department was one who I felt totally relaxed with, and [this is the important bit] made me laugh. I wonder how many men would think of looking on granset to find out how to keep their partners happy?

I'm sitting here trying to think about something funny to write that isn't too rude....my husband and his friend are discussing how they used to drive their lorries when still at work. If they only knew what was on this screen.....

Annika that's really cheered me up, I can just picture it!

I just can't do it..........

crimson

Not knitting, Annika, but remember I'm pretty good with string and sticky back plastic.....

crimson were you thinking we could knit these male `vibrators` as the grannies in the shreddies ad knit shreddies ???
Just to add to JessM and helshea CAROL
Never thought I would be here `talking ` about female masturbation while DH is watching The Muppets Christmas Carol that he had recorded a few days ago but ....... maybe that is why there is such a thing as female masturbation

I'll second that Jess.. CAROL!!

Carol!

No you haven't helshea. The tone took a definite dip quite a few postings ago! Keep 'em coming oops!