8.2 Billion given in Foreign aid last year by UK Gov

Just spoke to him on Skype .
Us-full tool to have whenim , its free

I haven't heard about this latest outburst. I'll watch the news. I have friends whose family live in Islamabad.

Whenim
Just spoken to a guy in Islamabad , he is leaving the city tonight its not safe for anyone ,
Burning buildings , churches etc no one is safe ,
Where will it end and the poor will suffer more.
Is there no answer ?

Conspiracy theories abound wind. I think if humanitarians like Clinton, Obama and Bill Gates are involving themselves wih Bilderberg, it is for benevolent reasons and because they want Bilderberg to be ethical in its dealings. For all their faults, making the poor in third world countries starve or die of disease is not what motivates them.

From what i have seen of Bilderburg the poor is the last thing on there minds.
I have seen wolfs share , and leave some for Others ,
A small bear through a salon to a lone coyote.
What strange animals we Humans are.
When a car or watch can mean more than feeding a child in Suharto.

I'm with whenim64 on this one.
"poverty* in the Uk cannot be compared with poverty in third world countries.
This country achieved its current wealth in part through exploitation of third world countries.
It is just no good saying "its not fair".
It's not fair that i live in a nice house with central heating while someone else my age lives in a leaky hut, with only a smoky dung fuelled fire for heating and cooking.
It's not fair that my grandchildren had free vaccinations while other people's grandchildren have none.
I could go on.

I take no issue with concern that funding should be audited, and resources given to the needy people they are intended for wind. So if Bilderberg are helping to do this, fine. Corruption and private deals need obliterating, but none of that is reason to deprive the desperately deprived human beings on our planet of aid. Let's just get it past the fat cats and corrupt politicians in both westernised and third world countries..

One more thing .
Obama and Hilary Clinton visited Bilderburg for a weekend in the campaign for the white house.
The following week Hilary Clinton Gave up the race ?
I wonder who runs the worlds resources as you said ???

Whenim have you heard of Bilderberg .
Look them up on Google.Why would all these ruling body's and members of Government visit a private Company ?
Interesting reading .
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/annotated-bilderberg-2012-member-list/

WaterAid has achieved much, in my opinion wind. There are other Gransnetters with more knowledge about the provision of water facilities in developing countries than I have. Your list is peppered with exagerations, and I guess you have some other issues about the way resources are shared on our planet?

Yes, I agree with you absent. Different factions creaming off aid should be sorted out ASAP, but is not a reason to cut or stop giving aid to the most needy people on our planet. Massive populations have different issues to manage than us smaller countries. China's attempts to reduce their population has taken a few twists and turns of late, and India would be more successful in reducing or plateauing their population if they could provide better living standards and improve health.

You say Space
I say nuclear bomb.
Did the Indian and Pakistan governments supply a bit of land .
And foreign company's rush to build them a bomb free of charge ?.
Since i have returned to the UK I have seen Care in the community here as it was called in action .
Mentally disturbed wondering about. with no help.
Jobs no where to be seen .
A health care in crises.
Kids going to school with no meals and a Government that says no money to help.
Schools given a pittance for interpreters for imegrants so all suffer.
And next August vast changes to the benefits and Pensions .
Where in India do you see a tax to live in a house .
What i am saying from what i have seen all over the world .
Nothing but dregs actually reaches the people in the hovels or on the street.
For over 45 years i have given to water aid , and what has it achieved when ministers in those country's build bombs , move about in limos.
Little i think

I think the decision to look at the way foreign aid is distributed, to whom and, most of all, by whom is a wise one. It seems to have become something of a gravy train for highly paid consultants, some of whom apparently run parallel businesses as advisors to British businesses on how to gain contracts financed by EU aid. I am sure that there are other consultants whose input is valuable but I do think wheat and chaff need separating.

I haven't had my pension cut wind, have you? I agree with when that the level of poverty in countries that receive aid just cannot be compared with levels of deprivation in this country.

Heres a comment from one of the many forums that are discussing this issue. This reflects how many people feel once they start to look more closely at the issue, rather than rely on what is reported here in the UK. I believe we shouldn't use our standards to analyse how India is managing its economy, as their development is in its infancy.

^'Yep, it would be quite easy for arm chair critics to criticise India and probably China also on running space programs while so much poverty exists in both countries.
But then once people start to think about the benefits and spin offs from space endeavours, a clearer picture emerges.
Improvements in weather predictions and warnings, and Agriculture management are just two areas that Satellites have helped to alleviate food shortage problems.
Topography and mapping plus GPS are other areas that bring about general improvements in helping large populations.
And I'm pretty sure without doing too much googling that India's poverty problem is far less then it used to be.
That situation would also be applied to China.'^

I support giving foreign aid and if it was cut and my pension increased accordingly, I would increase my charity donations to organisations like WaterAid, Save The Children, UNICEF and a couple of others. Government's job is to ensure that aid is spent appropriately, and to influence India whose space programme is not funded by foreign aid but business and international interests. I don't know enough about the Indian economy, but an academic whose opinion I trust has just returned from working in India for the Indian Times, and she assures me there is much misinformation circulating about their space programme, which is gathering momentum in terms of related employment and overseas investment. Immigrants and overseas visitors will train Indian citizens, help with a building programme and foreign aid should reduce accordingly, but abandoning support now would have negative results.

I don't equate the level of deprivation in this country with that of India. When the majority of Indian people have a living standard at the level of the early 20th century in the UK, I might alter my view.

Well said Barrow .
A Pakistani minister has just put up 100000 dollars for any one to kill the film maker that made the amateur film about Mohammad.
Where did that money come from ???

I can't understand why we are giving aid to India which has its own space programme!

I had no objection when aid was given to give vaccine to children a year or so ago to stop an epidemic - that is why aid should be about.

We have been sending money to Africa for at least 50 years to dig wells and supply water to people, a very worthy cause, but surely the amount of money sent should have dealt with that problemby now - more than enough money has been sent to set up de-salinations plants.

I would not object to the money sent if its use was overseen. How much has been siphoned off into Swiss bank accounts instead of being used for the purpose it was intended. I think this is the reason why a lot people object to Foreign Aid. Also at a time when our some of our own people are having problems, with some elderly people having to choose between heating their homes or eating, perhaps a cap should be put on the amount of money being sent abroad.

I heard someone on the radio explain it quite well when he said if his family was starving he wouldn't feed the family next door.