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Do you ever feel intimidated?

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Nanadogsbody Fri 12-Oct-12 14:04:39

I'm creating this thread reluctantly but I do have to say that I've been considering leaving GN.

Greatnan Sat 13-Oct-12 09:04:12

No, not a put down, just factual. The only time I have ever been critical of an individual poster was when I thought somebody's idea of 'banter' was inappropriate on a thread about tragic events. If I did think someone had said something unfair and offensive, I would challenge them immediately and I would like people to do the same to me, preferably on the open forum, but at least in a pm. I might want to apologise or explain myself in different terms. Even mass murderers are told the charges against them and given the chance to defend themselves!
I am not going to apologise for stating that I am an atheist and that I am opposed to certain teachings of some religions which I consider pernicious. Some people insist on seeing this as hostility towards individual members, no matter how often I say that this is not the case. Sometimes I feel they are wilfully failing to take my point.

Should anyone have to apologise for being strong, confident or articulate? I have never thought of them as character faults. If I choose to take part in debates on controversial subjects, I expect my views to be challenged but I don't then claim that I am being bullied.

Bags Sat 13-Oct-12 08:58:31

Bravely said, absent. I've been wanting to say that for a while.
BTW, I keep typing absnet. You won't mind if I don't correct it every time, will you?

absentgrana Sat 13-Oct-12 08:52:09

I should like to point out – at the risk of a lot of flak – that some posters delight in being victims, moaning, whining and complaining about being intimidated or, even more irritatingly, complaining,, as a self-appointed spokesman, about other people being intimidated. They also burble on about personal abuse when there has been no such thing and are awfully good at the Tony Blair defence (defending themselves or others against an accusation that has never been made). Not you Nanadogsody.

They know who they are; I know who they are (even when they have changed their names). It is just so incredibly predictable and massively boring. It's not a "back off" emoticon that is needed but a "get a life" emoticon.

Nanadogsbody Sat 13-Oct-12 08:18:29

That was to greatnan

Nanadogsbody Sat 13-Oct-12 08:17:21

Was that last post supposed to be helpful? If you read carefully what you have written you will see it is a put down. No one has asked anyone to refute anything as far as I can see. Let that one rest.

Bags Sat 13-Oct-12 08:14:01

joan, I think you might find the book I flagged up in the Politics forum interesting. There's a link to a short video by the author.

Joan Sat 13-Oct-12 08:09:05

In answer to the question in this thread -I rarely feel intimidated and love a good debate. I'm a leftie atheist, so I just can't help myself from challenging religiosity and the right wing - I think it is in my genetic make up. I was brought up in a political and argumentative family, so a good debate is totally non-threatening to me, and the more diverse the opinions expressed, the better. I certainly never mean to intimidate anyone when I challenge something that has been written. I make the (possibly false) assumption that everyone will enjoy the debate.

Anyway, if I've upset anyone I apologise: I certainly never mean to.

Greatnan Sat 13-Oct-12 08:05:00

We have been here before. I see no point in trying to refute vague allegations without direct reference to the actual posts or posters who have caused offence.

petallus Fri 12-Oct-12 22:22:52

Agree with last para in particular

kittylester Fri 12-Oct-12 21:59:26

This thread has proved that nanad isn't the only one who sometimes feels intimidated it is a bit unfair to name her as the person who is not particularly happy with the attitude of some posters.

Generally, everyone is really kind and thoughtful, allowing others to have their own view and I have felt really supported when I have been in need of it, but I definitely feel that there are some posters who think theirs is the only view permissible and that they try to put down people who don't agree with them.

jeni Fri 12-Oct-12 21:58:59

Please do! I also ended up with a bag of sweet potatoes which I didn't order and hate!
Perhaps angel next door might like them!

annodomini Fri 12-Oct-12 21:55:37

Going on a beef hunt, jeni? I have a vision of you armed with Bags's bow and arrows...grin
Unlike Waitrose to be so disobliging. I shall mention it to my contacts!

crimson Fri 12-Oct-12 21:53:54

I hate cooking, too. I feel your pain....

jeni Fri 12-Oct-12 21:49:48

bags only just read your post!
I find knitting very confrontational! I hate it and can't do it.
The same with cooking and I've got this Dutch lady coming tomorrow who I have to cook for til Wednesday!
I'm not happy!!!
Domestic goddess I'm not!
And the last straw is that waitrose said the joint I ordered was out of stock and didn't send a substitute so I've got to go on a beef hunt tomorrow and at the same time stay in for a signed for delivery!
PLEASE PEOPLE GET THIS

I AM NOT A HAPPY BUNNY

whenim64 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:44:14

Greatnan have you managed to get that gaffer tape off yet? grin

nightowl Fri 12-Oct-12 21:42:00

Sorry for opening that one up, I knew it was probably a mistake. I think I stepped into the minefield there - in trying to help with one problem I have now created another.

Let's just say that in the hundreds and thousands of posts that go on there are bound to be some where we upset each other, that are misinterpreted or whatever, and need to be left behind.

annodomini Fri 12-Oct-12 21:36:26

What worries me about this thread is that probably some posters are speculating about whom nanad feels intimidated by; and some are still wondering if somehow or other they might have been responsible. This cannot be healthy.

nightowl Fri 12-Oct-12 21:30:55

Greatnan I'm getting quite worried about you now smile

Nanadogsbody Fri 12-Oct-12 21:30:07

I admit I over-reacted to bags post and she didn't understand why. We have now drawn a line under that misunderstanding.
I think that this thread has found that some GNetters feel intimidated in a variety of ways and each has different ways of dealing with it. But it has also proved that there is support from some brave and lovely people and that is what really matters at the end of the day moon

PS I like the idea of a 'back off' emoticon. Any suggestions what it could look like?

Greatnan Fri 12-Oct-12 21:13:11

Quite.

Ana Fri 12-Oct-12 20:58:30

Agreed.

whenim64 Fri 12-Oct-12 20:51:55

Yes, I noticed that, too nightowl. Certain threads, by their very titles, show us that insensitivity should not be shown on there.

nightowl Fri 12-Oct-12 20:49:04

I agree about Bags.

I probably shouldn't say this but I'm going to anyway - a few weeks ago nanadogsbody came in for a real bashing on here, nothing at all to do with Bags, but at the time I was shocked and I'm not surprised that she is still questioning whether to stay. We sometimes share very personal information and attacks or even simple misunderstandings can cast a long shadow. That's all.

janeainsworth Fri 12-Oct-12 20:45:04

Perhaps we need a 'bang heads together' emoticon.
Only joking!
nanadogs absent and bags - love and peace.
sunshine

Ana Fri 12-Oct-12 20:37:56

Forgot to add smile!