Why do the elderly people in my area complain all the time I am not entitled to the house I inherited from my parents?.

my father left his house to his ex wife and none of his own children,,,,i tried desperattly to fight it costing me a fortune in solicitor bills. but he always told me he would never make a will didnt like to give his money to solicitors,,,,this young woman manipulated my dad in his old age and got him to make a will...he made it a few months before he died,,,she knew what she was doing,,,but i cant prove it, my dad said she pushed him down the stairs,,,then he said they were trying to poisen him,,,he was in hospital both times,........dont worry about this woman.....stay put,,,,remember the saying,,,,sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me,,,

Do they leave mental scars though Angie ?

Ho Angie

This woman does not worry me and I know the house is mine.
I was just pleased Dad said there was no chance her family would inherit the house rather than me having to say anything.
What does annoy me is having people saying I should hand the house over to this woman within 3 days of my father's death.
Nobody likes to lose a parent but Dad was nearly 90 and he had very few health problems until the last 3 months of his life so I did accept his death.
Mum was 85 so she had a good length of life.
What did surprise me was Dad was upset more by the death of my wife than by the death of my mother.

I was widowed quite a few years ago. I have legally signed over my property "in trust" to my children, for them to inherit after my death only.

angiebaby that's shocking!!!

Hi Beachee

Make sure your children have reasons for the creation of the trust other than to avoid nursing home fees.
I know Social Services may attempt to have the trust set aside however long ago the trust was created so the property can be sold to pay for the care.

Frank

May I put a different slant on this problem? Some years ago I was engaged to a widower who had a large house - I had my own small house. He wanted me to move in with him after we were married, but said he would have to leave the house and all his estate to his three adult children. He was about ten years older than me. I pointed out that if he died I would be left homeless and the proceeds of my own home might not be enough to buy a similar one, as it was in the time of raging property inflation. We reached a compromise - that I would rent out my own house so that I could return to it if needed.
I was not a gold-digger - in fact I was a high earner and did not need any man to support me. I would have been willing for him to sell his house and distribute the proceeds to his children but he said my house was too small for two people.
We could have been married for 20 years or more, during which time I would be contributing to our joint expenses and doing all the housekeeping.
Would it have been unreasonable of me to expect him to leave me, say, a one quarter share of the house, perhaps after a certain number of years?

In the event, we parted amicably when we realised that we did not have much in common after all.

I know about this hunterf and have already taken sound advice with regard to what you are talking about. The property in question is a dead relative's house which I own, so not in the picture at all, plus it was 12 years ago. My own house is mine alone to sell and squander the proceeds mercilessly as I wish!

Hi Greatnan

I see what you are saying but the main difference between your situation and mine is I was living in the house at the time when this woman arrived.
Even before I joined Dad I had paid for the house to be rewired £3,000 and I spent about £8,000 on block paving and I did give him half towards his private health insurance.
When I sold my house in London we kept the best furniture and the furniture which came frpm London would cost at least £15,000 to replace.
Since I moved and the time she wanted me to go I paid for a new kitchen and utility room £10,000, replaced Dad's bed £1,250, new carpets £2000, partially replaced the central heating £4,000 as well as lots of other small items.
I have had the shower room replaced since she left and paid for a lot of other improvements.
I agree that Dad did own half of the house according to the land certificate but he did not really own half as I inherited Mums half and had spent a lot of money bringing the house up to date.
The woman was told at the start there was no prospect she would inherit anything.
A last point it does say on the land certificate ''no sale, transfer or charge to be given over the house without the agreement of both owners.
This may have stopped Dad willing it to her anyway and she has come back over a year after she left.

Frank

What a horrible woman she is i'm sorry about the loss of your Father it does make you think was the house the reason she become friends with him in the first place, i'm sorry if i'm out of place saying that but it does happen' i hope it doesn't go on to long and the people who are saying these things to you should mind their own busines.

Hi Lizzie49
To some extent it did not surprise me when she came back after Dad’s death but what has astonished me is she has so many supporters.
For some strange reason some of these people are now saying I have never done a proper days work in my life and I have spent my life scrounging off my parents and do not deserve any inheritance.
I never worked local to the house but I did work in London and my pension is now being paid from London.
When I go into local shops however with my London earned pension money none of the shops around Birmingham have refused to serve me and happily take some of my London earned pension money in payment for the goods.

Frank

HUNTERF I think you need to dismiss these sad and stupid people from your day-to-day life before you end up having a breakdown or some other sort of distress. I know how irritating it is when you want to correct people for having a completely ludicrous view of matters, but if they won't listen – and that seems to be the way – then you are on a hiding to nothing. You are going to have to grow a thick skin and ignore these a*******s. You are, of course, wholly in the right.

HUNTERF; would it be out of the question to sell the house and move to a different area, even if it means downsizing? These awful people are not going to go away and they're making the area an unhappy one for you to live in. Many years ago a young lady befriended an uncle of mine when he was very old, and got him to leave his house to her. I had no claim on the house as I hardly knew him, but other family members were very upset by it [he had no children]. I feel that, if a couple own a house and have children, whatever happens in the future that house should go to them. In fact, something even closer to home happened recently [I'd kind of blanked it from my mind], so I do understand how you feel. Take care.

Hi Crimson

I dont think moving away is an option as my 2 daughters live less than a mile away.
Oddly enough I thought I was having a hastle free day yesterday and went for a drink in a pub in the centre of Birmingham in the evening with 2 friends and suddenly one of these people came up and started shouting out I had stolen this lady's home.
The pub manager came over and he had served me about half an hour before and told him to go outside and call the police if he thought I had stolen a house.
I stayed for another 2 hours and then got the train home passing at least 3 police officers on the way.
I did not get arrested so either this person complained to the police and they probably advised him this lady had no case for the house or he knew this lady had no case and never went to the police.
I walked back home after getting off the train and no police officer was there to stop me going into the house.

Frank

This is harassment, Frank. I really think you need to start reporting such people to the police - or at least find out where they live and have a solicitor's letter sent.

Frank could you sue for defamation. I would have taken Joan's advice but as there are idiots shouting at you I would seek legal advice.

I would have thought Birmingham was a big enough place to be able to escape this sort of hassle! I would still be tempted to move - it needn't be far! I wonder how these "elderly people" who are persecuting you manage to track you down, Couldn't you just avoid them?

Frank I do tend to feel that advice given earlier should be taken with regard to you health on this matter,if you let it carry on further you will become ill with worry I'm afraid,how sad that you think Police would be outside your door when you arrived home when in you own mind you know very well that this sort of thing would not happen as you have true ownership of your property.
I would place a small ad in local paper stating that anyone approaching you or trying to intimidate you in any way regarding this matter will be contacted by your family solicitor.
Ignore these people and whilst you should not have to frequent different venues do give them a wide berth when socialising with your friends.

Hi glammanana

To be honest I would have been very surprised if the police would have taken any interest and if she had tried to say I was squatting I have got 8 copies of the land certificate in various places showing I am the full owner.
Oddly enough somebody started talking in a local cafe this morning and my initial thought was o'h no. Here we go again.
I was about to go leaving half a cup of coffee and this man said she has told people she has spent several thousand £'s on the house but has never given an exact figure.
At the point in time she left I had paid for all of the repairs and the receipts are in my name and they amounted to £30,000 and have bank statements to prove it.
Since she left I have spent another £23,000 on the property.
The property is worth about £450,000 so I can not see how she could claim she is entitled to it.

Frank

Good advice from glamma, HunterF, and possibly change your cafe? Maison Mayci wouldn'thave that type of person in it!!

please enjoy your life inkow its hard with people interfering but its yours so forget waht people say and do not let them drive you away

Hi Gracesmum

Oddly enough it was the first time I had been in that cafe.
It has been there for 18 months and I have never fancied a coffee before when I have been near it.
I don't think the person I met there thought I should hand the house over when he realised she had not paid for any of the repairs etc.
He knew that a house can be split into a tenants in common ownership and half left to the son or daughter even though the other parent is living in it but he says that many people think the surviving parent can take the deceased parent's half back which is incorrect.
I have herd people saying this but they do not know what they are talking about.

Frank

HUNTERF It seems to me that this is becoming a real obsession for you – and given that you are subject to this horrid persecution, I can understand why. However, I think the best thing you can do right now is try to find some way to abstract yourself from this painful and deeply annoying situation. Could you go somewhere else on holiday? Even a week in another place would give you some breathing space when this is not the main issue in your life.

This woman cannot take you house away from you but what she is doing is taking the freedom from your life. That is all wrong and you would be well advised to take it back. Good luck.

Absent , like !

Agree!