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Boycotting Amazon

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YankeeGran Fri 16-Nov-12 20:01:40

Assuming that most Gransnet followers are at least vaguely aware that some of the BIG multi-nationals that operate in this country pay minimal UK tax, should we boycott them in order to make the point that while what they are doing may be legal, it IS immoral?! Google (don't know how we boycott it), Starbucks (you'll pay more for your cappucino than they pay in tax) and Amazon are all guilty parties.
Personally, I get cold and sweaty just thinking about boycotting Amazon. It is my "go-to" place for almost everything because it is guaranteed to be competitive in pricing, offer free deliver and send me things I cannot easily get elsewhere - and in a timely fashion. BUT the fact that they are making gazillions of dollars/pounds of profit and pay a pittance in tax makes me seethe. John Lewis pointed out that companies like this could drive them out of business because JL does pay the going rate for corporate tax and has no offshore advantages.
If enough of us boycotted Amazon and others, and made clear our reasons why, could we force them to do the right, moral thing?

jO5 Tue 20-Nov-12 22:19:17

I can see where granjura and Jendurham* are coming from. I guess I agree. But it's so hard. Especially at Xmas. I'm getting a bit past carrying the presents home on my bike. And the shops are tiring.

The kindle thing is very difficult too.

It has to be down to the government.

Or perhaps I shouldn't be so lazy. Because it is laziness.

grannyscalpay Tue 20-Nov-12 22:16:26

I won't be boycotting Amazon. It's our elected government's job to get rid of all the tax loopholes.

merlotgran Tue 20-Nov-12 22:08:36

'and after you’ve finished, read a book'

I'll leave you to fill in the rest wink

Ana Tue 20-Nov-12 22:02:03

Smacks a bit of more haranguing to me! confused

merlotgran Tue 20-Nov-12 21:56:16

Could it really apply to grannies?

I'm at home, I mowed the lawn (until November) Actually, I'm lying....DH mows the lawn but you know what I mean. I wash the bl**dy windows, I'm a good cook, I have helped to build a raft for our local Aquafest. It sank!!!
I had a job, I visit my mother four times a week, I study anything and everything I'm interested in and I always have a book on the go.

I bet that applies to all of us...Well, maybe not the raft grin

granjura Tue 20-Nov-12 21:39:21

“Always we hear the cry from teenagers ‘What can we do, where can we go?’
… My answer is, “Go home, mow the lawn, wash the windows, learn to cook, build a raft, get a job, visit the sick, study your lessons, and after you’ve finished, read a book.”

“Your town does not owe you recreational facilities and your parents do not owe you fun. The world does not owe you a living, you owe the world something. You owe it your time, energy and talent so that no one will be at war, in poverty or sick and lonely again.”

“In other words, grow up, stop being a cry baby, get out of your dream world and develop a backbone, not a wishbone. Start behaving like a responsible person. You are important and you are needed. It’s too late to sit around and wait for somebody to do something someday. Someday is now and that somebody is you…”“

granjura Tue 20-Nov-12 21:30:49

Well, I just can't resist. This was sent to me by a UK friend who lives in France. I loved it, and then wondered, could it apply to adults and grannies too?

crimson Tue 20-Nov-12 19:59:44

Some water companies avoid paying tax on their profits [or pay very little] and we can't boycot water. It seems to me that we are the generation that made a stand on everything throughout our adult lives and we're still doing it now...I do wonder younger people bother these days [gosh, it makes me feel old saying that].

petallus Tue 20-Nov-12 19:47:45

I meant f**ck

petallus Tue 20-Nov-12 19:46:21

And this is not true of Starbucks or Google?

I don't give a flying fc whether Amazon cares about me and my needs or not.

Bags Tue 20-Nov-12 19:43:51

merlot, you have a gift for the bon mot! grin

Ana Tue 20-Nov-12 19:43:01

grin merlot!

merlotgran Tue 20-Nov-12 19:42:23

Sounds like our village shop.

absentgrana Tue 20-Nov-12 19:27:04

Because it's big, hugely profitable, transnational and doesn't really care about you, your needs, the needs of your society or the place where you live. It makes a huge, inflated, unreasonable and barely taxed profit because it (i.e its shareholders) is a greedy entity with no social conscience. Any other questions?

petallus Tue 20-Nov-12 19:22:39

I'm not going to boycott Amazon but would avoid going into Starbucks, and possibly not use google if this would help.

Why does it have to be Amazon?

Bags Tue 20-Nov-12 19:20:45

Straightforward but not simplistic.

Bags Tue 20-Nov-12 19:20:09

Don,t worry, absent. I like your straightforwardness. It's refreshing.

Bags Tue 20-Nov-12 19:19:26

And I agree with petallus about your oversimplistic views, jend.

absentgrana Tue 20-Nov-12 19:18:55

Oops. See, I told you; I take everything literally. blush

YankeeGran Tue 20-Nov-12 19:18:19

WOW! I never thought the issue could be so controversial, so divisive! I think a lot of good arguments, both pro and con, have been put forward on this issue and I respect whatever decisions anyone makes with regard to the matter. When I brought this up in my bookclub today (all Brits but me), the responses were reflective of the conversations going on here. None of us can support every "worthwhile" cause that's out there. Some feel more passionately aobut this than others. Some will boycott, some won't. BUT. After emailing Amazon with my comments (there's a "Contact" link if you go to the "Help" page), I received a reply email (not the standard one) stating that my comments wuld be passed on to the appropriate people. Could mean they go nowhere, but I like to think that if enough customers comment, the company might feel compelled to do something. Even if it doesn't pay all legally liable UK taxes, any contribution from a multi-million pound business would be welcome. If you feel so inclined, please, PLEASE add to the pressure. I know I am not alone!

Bags Tue 20-Nov-12 19:17:23

No, not you, absent.

Nonu Tue 20-Nov-12 19:07:54

NOT U ABsent .

absentgrana Tue 20-Nov-12 19:01:37

I don't bloody do holy so please don't accuse me of being holier than anyone. angry

petallus Tue 20-Nov-12 18:52:10

Too simplistic Jendurham. Sorry!

Nonu Tue 20-Nov-12 18:47:33

Loved the comment "holier than thou ""

I have thought that for some time about different posts .

smile