Message from the doghouse

I must admit I'm always a bit disturbed by that, as I, along with several other established members, have indeed changed their user name.

that was in reply to Greatnan's 12.31 post

They are never going to make a Mumsnet out of us grannies though!

Absent I am very sorry that you interpreted my post as 'sarcastic' it wasn't! I really have no idea why you think it was and would venture to suggest it sayd rather more about you than me!

Greatnan thank you for welcoming me back. What tue is that? I haven't been on here long enough to have a tune I don't think. I do hope you are not suggesting that I 'make thinly veiled comments of other members' because if that is what you are suggesting then you are completely wrong! If I want to make a comment there will eb nothing veiled about it! As I have already said WISIWIG!

Talking of 'thinly veileed comments' who are you suggesting has changed their name?

How nice to see you back, Movedalot - and still singing the same tune!
I am afraid I can't claim to like every aspect of my own character and I am quite envious of your obvious self-approval.
However, one thing I do not do is make thinly veiled criticisms of other members. As you say, what you see is what you get - and for that reason I will never change my forum name.

I defend HQ vigorously against the charge that they have an inflated sense of their own importance. They do a difficult job with humour, warmth and tact. They are real people and I appreciate everything they do.

Nanadog Definately peace. I hadn't meant to sound angry. This is again about just how easy it is to misinterpret the tone of one another's posts on line.

greatnan could your remark about jingle giving gracesmum permission to come back not be classed as a 'sly dig' too? Just wondering.....

Blimey - plot-losing here!

Ana I'm not alone in missing the point?

And, can I suggest we all do the same so we're not in danger of policing the forum ourselves.

Utterly !

Well, in future I'm going to report every dubious post to GNHQ and see how long it takes before it is dealt with....

Message deleted by Gransnet.

And I don't think GNHQ has an over-inflated sense of it own importance.

Of course gracesmum didn't intend to hurt anyone's feelings. I can't imagine that anyone thinks she did. It's just Gransnet policy that we should report suspected trolls and let GNHQ make a decision about them. This has been made very clear.

Oops neliem I think we've both misunderstood each others posts. Peace.

When I read something that has ben posted by someone I do form a mental picture of the person writing it. Forums are a strange thing in that I've eventually met several people from forums and they have been just as I'd imagined. I know that very young people can be taken in by older people befriending them on the internet but, as one gets older and wiser you very much get a feel for what people are really like [and if you actually like them]. So you do start to interpret what people say not just by the words. And, for that reason I know that gracesmum would not say or do anything to hurt anyone.

Thanks Elegran for understanding me and for explaining what had happened.

I do like your posts as they are always clear and straightforward and therefore suitable for someone like me who is uncomplicated and also straighforward. Life is so much easier that way!

Woah! there. Nanadog I did not mean to imply anything about my views on gracesmum comments on the subject of the Three Billy Goat Gruff's opponents.

I was trying to say that "there but for the grace of (whoever you like)" any one of us could go.
It is quite easy the heat or excitement of the moment to make a remark that when viewed later might appear hurtful or offensive, is misinterpreted, or breaches what might be described as good taste or Gransnet ettiquette.
I now see there were "policy issues" involved here.

I think Greatnan had made the point before, that stuff said on here, as if in direct conversation' looses context when viewed in writing.

In writing this I have been dealing with interuptions from DH to do Amazon searches etc. It has taken me about 90 minutes to place this post which I started writing straight after reading Nanadogs post.

My Gransnet addiction has also stopped me from doing my food shopping list. and I am still here in my dressing gown.

Movedalot I think some people misunderstand posts because they simply can't follow what is being said or the post has been badly expressed in the first place. I think some people post their opinions without necessarily reading everything else in a thread. I don't think people deliberately and maliciously choose to distort what has been said, which is what you have implied with the sarcastic addition of inverted commas in your comment about Greatnan.

Comprehending is an antonym for misunderstanding. You talked about misunderstanding and miss reading.

This is a forum for discussion not for looking for character traits. If someone says, for example, the decision of the General Synod not to appoint women bishops is a disgrace, then they are not inviting you to look for the best in them; they are inviting you to comment on the General Synod's decision. (Or not, if you're not interested.)

I simply don't understand your attitude about looking for the best in people in this context.

I agree with what you said a few posts ago, movedalot Some people do seem to misinterpret posts apparently wilfully. What you said is quite clear - from your readings of gracesmum's previous posts you do not think she would have been unnecessarily critical.

You are right. She wasn't. she said what she thought, that some new poster(s) on a certain thread did not seem to be genuine, and were certainly being crude. GNHQ prefer to do their own "disciplining" and do not like us to accuse posters of trolling, as it upsets them if they are genuine posters.

Thank you Movedalot. Appreciated.

Sorry Absent what are you trying to say? I am sure I didn't say anything about 'comprehending what other posters say' or 'analysing' them. Are you 'comprehending' what I said or are you reading something into it that is not there? I am a simple soul and WYSIWYG, that is all.

Movedalot Surely comprehending or at least trying to comprehend what other posters say is more far more useful, constructive and polite and certainly far less arrogant than "analysing" their character from a short paragraph.