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Sel I haven't looked but I'll go and read it all now so I have some idea what you are talking about.

By the way, I think you will find that that there have always been light-hearted topics as well as more serious, contentiious and demanding subjects discussed on Gransnet.

Incidentally, I could list 20 right wing/conservative politically astute Gransnetters without trying (probably more if I thought about it). I could do the same with left wing/socialist Gransnetters too. It only seems like a left-wing rally if your politics differ. It's like the BBC – those of a right persuasion think it's biased to the left and vice versa.

absent yes, I don't deny the lighthearted ones..but references to colour choice and fluffy bunnies??

I am not left or right wing I'm just someone who's built a business and finds some of the left wing rhetoric hard to stomach when it comes down to economics. I feel at times a dose of reality is missing.

Hey ho..incidentally, welcome back

Conflicting opinions are what always made gransnet so interesting... we are all different. Debate is good. Well said Absent. Like a good bag of sweets - a mixture of flavours, but something for everyone.

Sel, I totally refute any accusation that I have driven away new members. Perhaps you would let me know to which new members you refer?In fact, I almost always post a welcome to new members.
"I'm not accusing you, there are several." means that you are, in fact, accusing me of something - just one more vague allegation against me.
I think you will find that Cheelu and I have a very pleasant relationship.
The fact that I have always been very honest about my political and religious beliefs has resulted in sustained campaigns of vilification but I am surprised that you have allowed yourself to become part of it.

Agreed, and nice to see you again

I did wonder why you started the "Three cheers" thread Sel - not detracting from cheelu I hasten to add, but it might have seemed that you were identifying one Gnetter at the expense of others and with implicit cticism. Personally, I could raise several hearty cheers for jeni who has been a wonderful support in my dealings with ATOS, Sook who shares in many of my DH health-related issues and sympathises unselfishly, (and both of them sharing my exerience of DHs with transplants) JessM who offers me coffee and points me towards interesting U3A talks, soop for her constant cheerfulness even in adversity, * elegran*, gally, em, anno Granny23* for their sensitivity and indulging my Scottish nostalgia....you see any of us could name so many, but it's like naming your favourite child!!..... IMHO singling out one person is invidious and deeply embarrassing for the person singled out. You never do it as a teacher unless you want that "poor" child to suffer behind the bike sheds at break!

I guess it was me that caused the upset for Crimson as I queried her use of 'the Arabs' but I made no accusation of racism. It was explained / put in the context of the horse racing fraternity and I did not pursue it in any way.

Sorry crimson if my comment made you decide to close your GN account.. I was not being unkind..just over sensitive. Don't leave on my account.

Gracesm I help anyone if my knowledge can be of assistance. I only point people to the appropiate law!

Oh I am not saying that I had privileged access to information but it made all the difference - and I was and am grateful. I might have to wait a bit before starting a thread though.......................
How is the boiler?

Which one? The heating one or the old one - me! The heating is on but hardly keeping pace!
Didn't say it was privileged!
The ESA law is not well understood even by CAB people. We have intensive regular training courses. We have to. They keep changing the darn thing. I think we're on the third version.
The next one will be on the new PIP!
Watch this space. Someone said the other day you have to be incapable of mobilising (not walking note) less than 20metres to qualify.
I think they are still messing around with refining the parameters!

I did mean the heating! The other "old boiler" seems to be surviving well.
By "mobilising" does that mean using a wheelchair/mobility scooter/walking or wheely frame? I suspect it does, which is why I still have not bothered to apply for a blue parking badge.
Q: Can you stand at all and move 3 steps(with help)?
A: if "yes" - application rejected!!

Quite and yes mobilising means without any suitable aid. A manual aid used by the claimant ie if its a wheelchair NOT being pushed. Propelling yourself and not an electric one.
If you are over 65. A form from your local council can be completed by your GP to get a blue badge. There is no mobility component for people over 65 but they can still get a badge. Pip is for the under 65s at the moment ad far as I can see!

Sorry WITH AMY SUITABLE SID

ANY SUITABLE AID.

iPad finger!

This is what I mean when I talk about people misrepresenting what others have said. I defended myself and this morning have seen this:

"I feel very annoyed at being vilified for hijacking this thread when I had nothing to do with the digression. I simply replied to an attack. Whenever I try to defend myself against concerted animosity, I am accused of squabbling. Perhaps I should just let anybody say anything they like about me without any response.
I have no idea why Movedalot chose to make this unnecessary and unpleasant diversion but DO NOT BLAME ME!"

This is a personal attack! Anyone reading the thread will see that I have been, yet again, misquoted.

I am the one who responded to what was said about me, not the other way round!

Here we go again but I am not going to just sit here and take it, ever!

I note that Ana never did get a response. That has happened before.

I feel your frustration movedalot.

I'm really do not understand where all the above is coming from. It makes me sad that so many well-meaning people are involved in a virtual fracas. There is so much tormoil in this wee world of ours. Where are the peace-makers?

Let's meet in the bolt hole eat drink and be merry.[ flowers]

Or even

I've read through a number of threads recently and I think some of the communication problems that have arisen have done so because people don't read the posts before putting finger to keyboard. It has quite charming results sometimes when the thread goes off on a surreal excursion but it can also, apparently, lead to total misunderstanding and hurt feelings. If you quail at the thought of reading six pages of other posters' thoughts you can usually find out what the issue is and what was actually said within a couple of pages. If GN had the facility of easily quoting the post to which one takes issue, that would also help.

soop I see where you are coming from. In some cases we can sit back and ignore the jibes but in others some of us feel we have to stand up for ourselves, especially when it keeps happening.

I've reserved a place for you, Grannyeggs...and there's room for many more. Just throwing another log on the fire.

You are one, soop which is why we love you.

How come you can say that you don't understand what's caused all this hoohah, hurt and anger soop but when I say it I am shouted at and told I can't emphasise [sic] and lack emotional intelligence? [not fair emoticon] One rule for the lovely lady and one rule for the not lovely not lady, I guess.

I see where Movedalot is coming from.