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Suprise, suprise! We are an aging population

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matson Sat 19-Jan-13 19:08:47

total agreement, have just retired and received my free bus pass! but because off foolishly taking out private pension towards retirement, tax office inform me i have to pay £5oo more ontop of what i,m already paying in tax. so dont get me started onFREE BUS PASSES. i also found when i hit 60 and attended gp for a consultation that i have been told to just live with it! Over the past year i suddenly feel very old .x

FlicketyB Sat 19-Jan-13 19:00:43

I spit with fury when older people are talked about as a burden on the health service etc etc. Most of us have been paying for the NHS, pensions etc for well over 40 years and, like most young people today, in that time we have probably had very little reason to use it because we have generally had good health and few problems, but after that 40 years of paying in and not using the NHS very much, as soon as we do need help and want to draw on the services our 40 years of payments have gone towards, we are described as burdens!!

juneh Sat 19-Jan-13 18:09:10

Surprise! We are an ageing population, just in case you hadn’t realised. It’s all over the news how the health service cannot cope with the mounting population of elderly people. How older members of society need to be cared for at home and so on. How Britain cannot afford this drain on society. I am sad to say that all this talk of us being an elderly population insights ageism.
I trained as a nurse in the late sixties then went on to train as a Health Visitor in the eighties. At the time I learned that somewhere in the future society would be struggling with too few young people and too many older people. I am talking of more than forty years ago when sociologists predicted that this would happen. However well before then economists were predicting the costs of the care of the elderly in the future. In the early 1990s it was argued that in a few years, the baby boomers would retire and before you know it Britain, and for that matter most of the Western world, would see the proportion of its population in a retirement balloon. They were right of course but governments then and since have ignored the warning. The consequences turned out to be depressingly predictable the budget deficit climbing higher and higher as pensioners collect their retirement and medical benefits, all to be paid by a shrinking core of taxpayers. After all of that governments are still saying ‘we are thinking of how to deal with an aging population’. Once again we are informed there is growing awareness of the importance of population ageing in shaping the current and future society. Mainstream demographers, economists, biologists, sociologists, and those from development and area studies along with public health, are all entering the field of ageing research as if it’s something new.
Bit late now! Why has it not happened already since it was first noted all those years ago? Why are governments still thinking about it. Not one government has wanted to tackle the subject thus far because the so called aging population are voters. It’s like threatening to freeze pensions; the aging voter will withdraw their support of any party if that were to happen.
It is of course about the money but is it also because we fail to ask an important question, why have we slowly turned into an uncaring society? Why are old people neglected in hospital, by families and society in general? This is more about that than it is the aging population. All this talk is turning the young against the old, making them resentful and afraid of the future in fact denying the ageing process because we have become a society seeking immortality and materialism. On the one hand the elderly are being medically propped up with the onset of new and wonderful drugs whilst on the other, the health service is finding it hard to cope with longevity. It’s a contradiction isn’t it?
Research reveals that more than 10 million people are now aged over 65 within the UK, and an estimated 19 million people will be over 65 by the year by 2050. It is also reported to be the case that the government is acting quickly in order to tackle a number of key issues we have to believe that I suppose. They are now saying there will be improvements to the health service with emphasis on prevention. As a health visitor in the late eighties medicine was about prevention rather than cure, it was the new idea of the day but not a lot of good came of that ideal in regards the elderly care. Elderly were the poor relation when it came to prevention and yet now all these years later they are still, (so called) dealing with the end of life care process. They have even reviewed the idea of housing reform to support accessibility for the elderly. There is some talk about developing working skills in support of those who care for the elderly and so on Yada! Yada! Yada! Private companies however have taken a handle on assisted living ideals but it seems it’s only accessible to those who can afford it.
Recently my little granddaughter said that she wanted me to live to one hundred so that I could get a letter from the Queen, although I love my grandchildren very much I don’t think I want to live to a hundred unless of course I can be independent, a desire for anyone of us isn’t it? To be independent, managing in one’s own affairs, doing one’s own shopping and tottering down the road to walk the dog, which is possibly older than us. Well that is how I see myself and in an ideal world that is how it should be, but becoming less and less likely. How many of us came hopefully and happily to retirement after working and bringing up families? Surely we should be able to expect, after paying a lifetime of taxes and national insurance, that we will be cared for in old age, that we will be respected and treated with kindness if ill or helpless. For those of us who have paid our way, why are we expected to pay more through low interest on our savings, tax on pensions, payment up front ideas for care, and worst still, expected to sell our homes which we have worked hard to own and maintain. Yet there are others who have the same privileges without having to pay. It has made me wonder what working hard, saving for my old age has really been about.
It seems that we cannot expect to have our savings, own our own homes, or be looked after by the welfare state even though we have paid into it. If one becomes incapacitated one has to rely up the kindness of others, the sensitivity of hospital nursing staff or care home attendance. In the past family have taken care of their own elderly, however nowadays it isn’t expected. Families have migrated to find a decent standard of living, housing and schools elsewhere thus splitting the extended family apart. I predict that in time all of this will lead to voluntary euthanasia. If this resentment of the elderly continues along with poor elderly care then for me it would be the best option.