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BAnanas Sun 20-Jan-13 20:17:51

On the Michelle Obama's Fringe thread, Riverwalk kindly explained what "bangs" are, a term frequently used by Americans. Riverwalk herself thought it was a slang for breasts for a while, but apparently it's what Americans call a fringe. It occurred to me that Americans have some strange terminology, possibly they think the same about us. I find certain aspects about the American way of life quite strange, anyone know what a Homecoming Queen is? I have heard this expression used so often, but haven't a clue who she would be. Another thing I find quite odd when I have been there, the number of women who drive around with stickers in the back of their cars with "I'm a football mom" or "I'm a hockey mom". I find wanting to drive around advertising to all and sundry what sport your kid is into quite bizarre. Anybody else find certain aspects about the American way of life very different from our own?

annodomini Mon 21-Jan-13 16:55:09

Just as well that on both sides of the Atlantic it's most often just referred to as a 'lab'.

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:54:43

Sir Humphry, pleeeease! He must just have been pretty busy inventing all these things - never a ditherer.
phoenix I always felt the American pronunciation of laboratory was perilously close to lavatory!

Anne58 Mon 21-Jan-13 16:44:02

No, not to rhyme with cattery!

Lab ra tory

Instead of Lab ora tory.

yogagran Mon 21-Jan-13 16:40:35

What about cupcakes instead of fairy cakes?

Sel Mon 21-Jan-13 16:38:49

gracesmum I read Bags's post - bit of a ditherer, Mr Davy. I will present this definitive information to OH tonight and claim trans Altlantic supremacy - thank you.

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:31:13

Meant to add, confirmed by OED - aluminium

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:29:21

Have you not read my post, Sel? It clearly states that Davy renamed it in 1812.

Sel Mon 21-Jan-13 16:14:21

Bags oh no, this means OH was right. I won't tell him.

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:09:12

Crossed posts Bags - 1812 it appears.

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:07:16

sorry about "who who" grin

Bags Mon 21-Jan-13 16:07:09

gm smile

Bags Mon 21-Jan-13 16:06:47

Humphrey Davy named it alumium. Then it changed to aluminum, as it still is in N america. Don,t know when we decided on aluminium.

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:06:45

I have googled it and find that it was named by Sir Humphry Davy (who who, you may recall, “abominated gravy, and lived in the odium of having discovered sodium”), and read that :
"Sir Humphry made a bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium in 1812. His classically educated scientific colleagues preferred aluminium right from the start, because it had more of a classical ring, and chimed harmoniously with many other elements whose names ended in –ium, like potassium, sodium, and magnesium, all of which had been named by Davy."
So it appears that aluminium is *right.

Bags Mon 21-Jan-13 16:04:44

Hmm, yes. Somehow I made labrattory sound right in my head (well, acceptable) but it's not working any more. Brain fuzz moment hmm

Perhaps I was thinking LABrattry ???

Anyway, another explanation could be never having heard the word before. DD is coming across new words all the time in her reading, but if she hasn't heard them spoken before and doesn't know their derivation, she sometimes gets them wrong interesting.

Likewise, DH pronounces many scientific words the American way because that's how he heard them first.

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 16:00:18

Forget the double a my laptop is developing a stammer grin

gracesmum Mon 21-Jan-13 15:59:34

Why is aaluminum right and aluminium not?

feetlebaum Mon 21-Jan-13 15:55:34

#Phoenix - Crumbs - I never heard anyone say that! To rhyme with 'cattery'? Bizarre.

Mind you some things they get right, and we don't - 'aluminum' instead of our 'aluminium' for example.

Waitress in Denny's, Palo Alto, to me: "Do you speak English?"
Me: "Speak it? Madam, I AM it!'

Bags Mon 21-Jan-13 15:33:16

Well, it isn't really totally different. They are just shortening the o rather extremely and putting the stress on a different syllable. So what? We understand the word. There are similar 'sized' differences in pronunciation of various words even within our own country. Of course people in a different country will pronounce many things differently, and use different words for the same thing.

Why complain? Just enjoy it.

Anne58 Mon 21-Jan-13 15:10:40

No feetlebaum , I mean the way they say LabRAtory, not a different stress on a syllable, a totally different word!

annodomini Mon 21-Jan-13 14:42:43

i had a penpal in my teens who talked about her bangs - it was only by the context that I understood what she meant. Interesting origin, absent.

Bags Mon 21-Jan-13 13:40:27

I first came across the use of bangs for fringes in Laura Ingalls Wilder's books when I was a kid. Although I understood what it meant I've never knownw where it came from. Thanks, absent.

Barrow Mon 21-Jan-13 13:35:21

Not an Americanism but when I was visiting my brother in Australia he mentioned he was going to put on his thongs - it took me a while to realise he meant his flip flops! A mental image I could have done without!

feetlebaum Mon 21-Jan-13 11:48:42

#phoenix - "Some Americanisms really grate. For example the stretching of words, like "burglarise" instead of "burgle". And the way laboratory is always mispronounced!"

As LABoratory, you mean? While we sa LaBORatrie - many American English words are stressed differently from the same word in British English, e.g., AdverTISEment.

Apart from 'awesome' already mentioned - 'totally', as in 'I'll totally buy one of those' is assuming the proportions of a bête noir, especially when pronounced 'toadalley'!

absent Mon 21-Jan-13 11:43:57

Bangs, meaning a fringe (hairstyle, not soft furnishing) comes from bang-tail, a racehorse with a docked tail.

absent Mon 21-Jan-13 11:25:18

There aren't many American words that Brits won't understand and vice versa, but there are a few pitfalls. In the US, nursing a baby doesn't just mean cuddling but breastfeeding. Fanny and fag are two other obvious minefields.