ONE BILLION RISING. Will you give your support to women across the planet on 14 February?

This man did not threaten violence towards this lady. She thought he might have attacked her, ran and fell.
It was her own fault.

Frank

Answer the question, HunterF - you may be a pussy cat underneath, but answer the question!

You wound me up on the leisure centre thread Frank, well done. I think you secretly wish you were a woman and had all the privileges women have had over the centuries.

Hi Faye

You may want to console yourself in the fact that the Hunter name will not exist in 50 years time as there is only one younger than me and he is 59 and only has daughters.
Probably God only let us have daughters and granddaughters as he wanted the future family to be able to do aerobics without any problems.

Frank

Why on earth should that "console" Faye or anyone?
And why won't you answer my question??
PS there will be loads of people with that surname, but glad your rellie is good to 109!!

Hi gracesmum

If you were refering to the woman getting injured I would have not been pleased if it had been my wife or daughter.

In view of the police enquiries going in his favour we would have had to accept the situation.

I would have not aproached this man and risked further problems.

The lady just has to be thankfull it was just a few scratches.

Also there are plenty of police in the area. Why did she not report him before any damage happened and it could have been sorted earlier?.

I do not know if my relative will be good to 109.

As far as I am aware the maximum anybody has lived in our family is 102. Oddly enough that was a man.

A woman lived to 101.

Frank

What a shame this thread has been diverted by Frank's tedious comments. He hasn't responded to any of the pertinent questions asked of him, nor reacted to speculation that he might be trying to wind us up or cause mischief, yet Gransnetters have gone to an awful lot of trouble to explain why the issues are important. I note from when he first joined that his request for views were met with support and advice, at a time when he was quite upset about how neighbours were treating him.

You haven't exactly kept to the spirit of Gransnet, have you Frank? All you have done is grab attention away from the issue of the One Billion Rising event on February 14th.

I feel that enough is enough. You have limited understanding, and have exploited the unlimited generosity of Gransnetters who wanted to help you understand that this campign is not 'pointless.' On the contrary, all you've done is reinforce to us what an uphill battle women have been facing, when dealing with such indifference to the harm they have experienced at the hands of abusive men.

Hear hear, when!

Amen to that when.

And for goodness' sake - I am fed up hearing about 'ladies'. Makes us sound like public conveniences.

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I am more than happy for a line to be drawn

Well we know that this campaign isn't pointless. We are also realistic enough to know that attitudes and actions will not change overnight, however many of us there are and however vociferous we are. We know that change comes gradually until things reach a tipping point. Let us try to bring that tipping point a little closer so that one day every man in the world would be ashamed to be dismissive about rape and other violence towards women.

Well said absent.

absent well said.

HunterF's contributions to the thread will be valuable then, as evidence of the attitude of a representative man, his bias blindingly obvious to everyone but himself.

I still wonder whether he is pulling our lycra-clad legs and being deliberately obtuse.

I think you could be right there, Elegran. Have picture in my mind of HUNTERF sitting at his computer, sniggering like Mutley from the 80's children's cartoon 'Wacky Races' !

Hear Hear when I think he is either a wind-up merchant or a dinosaur, in other words a dying breed I hope. To be honest I think that we should just ignore any of his comments on this thread. Despite many Gransnetters attempting to educate him he persists in re-telling us his silly little story of the girl at the train station. He hasn't backed up his comments with any real facts just old fashioned theories and opinions. Frank you weren't the man at the train station were you? The incident does seem to rankle.

I think women would be simply sensible to apply a bit of avoidance to late night situations. Like, putting a coat over their skimpy outfits, not getting drunk, not drawing attention to themselves through daft and rowdy behaviour.

Of course the blame for rape lies wholly with the perpetrator, but self protection/common sense is good.

If the man walking to the train station at the same time as the lady who tripped and fell through nervousness was not prosecuted by the police, then the discussion of the (non?) event seems pointless.

I think this thread is getting bitchy. Against Frank.

I had never heard of this One Billion thing before. One billion what? I know it's about rape, but they can't have counted them all. Has a link been put up? Perhaps I have missed it. (haven't read all the long winded posts on the thread)

j07 I am sure most of us would agree about sensible ways for women to keep themselves as safe as possible, not just from rapists but from muggers and other thieves too – from groups of friends on a night out staying together to not getting blind drunk and from walking purposefully along the road to avoiding shortcuts across lonely places in the dark. That was not really what the thread was about and the subject didn't even arise until it was hijacked and meandered off even more than threads usually do. But you are, of course, quite correct in everything you say.

All sides of an argument (bad word but you know what I mean) can be explored surely?

Is there a link to the main subject?

found the website

Thanks for the link, Jings...will read it with interest.

Unfortunately there will always be perverts around who will attack women and I just can not see what can be done about it except security camaras etc.
Just because men are by themselves at a sports centre or anywhere else does not mean they have any bad intent.
I did hear of a man in his mid 20's who was widowed and I have met 2 men in the same situation in their mid 30's.
The only time I hurt a woman was when I was doing first aid on her and looking back I probably pressed a bit hard to stop the blood but I was only a first aider and not a doctor.
Another woman was helping but she was not a first aider.
Ok people do bump into each other in exercise classes but women do bump into women and I have had women bump into me by going the wrong way. I have knocked into women but I have never done any injury.
Women want men in the home. As everybody knows I was married and then widowed.

Frank