Should prisons be made harsher?.

Or is it women only ?

Well, if you're having a get-together in Birmingham, gracesmum...

HunterF Not this old chestnut again!

A big majority of those in prison would not be deterred by harsher punishment.

They probably do not imagine they are ever going to get caught, at their fraud, or drink driving, or dangerous driving. or bank robbery.

They are so desperate to get their next fix that is all they can think of.

Those in for fighting and other violence are so off their heads on strong lager they don't think at all.

They are suffering from borderline learning disability, or mental health issues. and can't make rational decisions.

They have suffered so much trauma and abuse already they don't know anything better or really care what happens to them.

We have to have prisons but I see no point in making them inhumane.

Don't be silly, Frank you can get books and records from the library - oh, but that would involve your council tax wouldn't it. Damn. Maybe they could be sentenced to single sex exercise classes. That'd teach'em!

Frank , can I be frightfully nosy and ask which part of the frightfully expensive part of Birmingham ??

Nonu

The country is in a financial mess and I am thinking of ways to save money.

Frank

gracemum

No. That would cost money.

Frank , questions , questions , you"re poor brain MUST be reeling ?

How to cope ??????

If a desert island, Frank they would of course be allowed their 7 records, Bible and complete works of Shakespeare you understand.

Nonu

I live in one of the more expensive parts of Birmingham.

Cos she's sending "the boys" round....................................

jO7

I wished I had 3 cooked meals a day free of charge. They need to make prisons places which people would not want to return to.
They could also be located on a deserted island.
They could also have prison ships out at sea.

Frank

Me too, jingl, but I think the game's up now....

Totally off the wall Frank , what part of Birmingham do you live ?[

The prison population would also be drastically reduced if the luxury of food were withdrawn. I'm surprised HunterF hadn't got round to that yet.

The punishment is the taking away of a person's liberty. Not making their lives a complete misery. You need decent conditions, classes and worthwhile occupations, and areas for fresh air and exercise. And a good diet.

If this is a wind up, I have fallen for it.

Surely it is!

#displayofignorancenotappreciated

#orsilliness

Are you related to relic Frank?? Same surname...............

Oh what a wag you are, Frank (or whatever other names you go by...)

Ana

The prisoners could sleep on a stone floor.
You are not expecting them to have lights in prisons are you?.
You will be expecting glass in the windows next.

Frank

You mean when people say "Now let me be frank....."??

I know, he's just being Frank.

Frank, come on now - you're blowing your cover! I was inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt before, but seriously - no beds and no heating....

Not my point, NFK - this is a wind up.

Graceesmum don't forget most houses were a bit short of amenities too.