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Should prisons be made harsher?.

(110 Posts)
HUNTERF Thu 31-Jan-13 22:09:01

Another thought I am having is prisons are not harsh enough to deter crime.
If beds were not provided and prisons were not heated this would save money and I am sure people would not offend again if they had to put up with these conditions for months or years.
There should be nothing like TV or any other non essential items.


petallus Thu 31-Jan-13 22:13:28

Would this be for ladies' prisons as well?

NfkDumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 22:13:34

Ooh, you stirrer! The human rights lot and Brussels would never allow it. You'll be advocating hanging next!

janeainsworth Thu 31-Jan-13 22:16:32

Ooh Petallus gringrin

NfkDumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 22:17:13

I do agree though that prisons do seem just a little too soft. And aren't some blokes appealing for nooky rights too?

HUNTERF Thu 31-Jan-13 22:18:48


Yes it would be for ladies prisons as well.


janeainsworth Thu 31-Jan-13 22:19:43

I think they have those already Nfk
They wanted access to IVF - there was a thread about it.

NfkDumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 22:24:41

Ladies in prison? Visions of nice polite misunderstood girls wearing bustles. Of course they need all mod cons and comfy sofas.

gracesmum Thu 31-Jan-13 22:26:50

In history, prisons did not have the amenities of which you complain, so according to your carefully thought out argument HUNTERF there would have been no criminals or prisoners then. What's that? There were? oh, must be just another wind-up then.

La-la-la-la - so not listening smile

NfkDumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 22:28:01

So Jane they have to make do with a rude magazine and a bottle? Why? Is it to keep their women in line by keeping them fatly pregnant?

NfkDumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 22:29:35

Graceesmum don't forget most houses were a bit short of amenities too.

gracesmum Thu 31-Jan-13 22:32:27

Not my point, NFK - this is a wind up.

Ana Thu 31-Jan-13 22:33:10

Frank, come on now - you're blowing your cover! I was inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt before, but seriously - no beds and no heating....grin

NfkDumpling Thu 31-Jan-13 22:34:00

I know, he's just being Frank.

gracesmum Thu 31-Jan-13 22:34:53

You mean when people say "Now let me be frank....."??grin

HUNTERF Thu 31-Jan-13 22:39:01


The prisoners could sleep on a stone floor.
You are not expecting them to have lights in prisons are you?.
You will be expecting glass in the windows next.


Ana Thu 31-Jan-13 22:40:21

grin Oh what a wag you are, Frank (or whatever other names you go by...)

gracesmum Thu 31-Jan-13 22:41:32

Are you related to relic Frank?? Same surname...............hmm

j07 Thu 31-Jan-13 22:43:51

The punishment is the taking away of a person's liberty. Not making their lives a complete misery. You need decent conditions, classes and worthwhile occupations, and areas for fresh air and exercise. And a good diet.

If this is a wind up, I have fallen for it.

Surely it is! hmm



gracesmum Thu 31-Jan-13 22:46:17

The prison population would also be drastically reduced if the luxury of food were withdrawn. I'm surprised HunterF hadn't got round to that yet.

Nonu Thu 31-Jan-13 22:46:31

Totally off the wall Frank , what part of Birmingham do you live ?[moon

Ana Thu 31-Jan-13 22:48:18

Me too, jingl, but I think the game's up now....hmm

HUNTERF Thu 31-Jan-13 22:48:43


I wished I had 3 cooked meals a day free of charge. They need to make prisons places which people would not want to return to.
They could also be located on a deserted island.
They could also have prison ships out at sea.


gracesmum Thu 31-Jan-13 22:48:50

Cos she's sending "the boys" round....................................shock

Ana Thu 31-Jan-13 22:50:10