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Anne58 Sat 02-Feb-13 20:59:38

Hello all,
I know that this has come up before, and I think that we can all appreciate that this form of communication has no face or voice, therefore it can sometimes be difficult to get the "feel" of what someone is trying to say or the tone in which it is meant.

Yes, we have emoticons that we can use, but even then the way a post is presented and received can still be open to interpretation. I have seen new members saying that they have decided to leave after "seeing" the way that some threads evolve, and they have been advised to stick around, maybe lurk for a while, before actually leaving.

Please can I ask all of you to do a little experiment? Try saying these words "It's quite nice". A very simple 3 word phrase.

Perhaps imagine someone showing you something, a knitting pattern, a photo, a fabric sample. Maybe a better example would be that you have gone with a friend to help her to choose an outfit for an occasion.

She picks up something that you feel a bit doubtful about, goes to try it on and comes out. It looks better than you thought it would "It's quite nice!"

She chooses something to try that isn't quite the thing, but you don't want to be too hard "It's quite nice"

Same three words, totally different inflection.

Perhaps I'm stating the bleedin' obvious, as the saying goes!

I'll get my coat!

gracesmum Sun 03-Feb-13 21:36:17

Maybe a line could be drawn under this thread as well. Not disputing what has been said, but we could concentrate more on what is worth saying and give some of the navel gazing that has been going on a rest.
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jeni Sun 03-Feb-13 20:46:55

Thanksmoon

Butty Sun 03-Feb-13 20:35:05

Night, jeni moon Sleep well.

grannyactivist Sun 03-Feb-13 20:25:11

Goodnight jeni, hope tomorrow is stress-free for you. smile moon

jeni Sun 03-Feb-13 20:22:56

hmm too complicated for my tiny brain! I think I've overworked it today reading all those files and the washing machine breaking down!
I'm going to show myself I CAN keep away from GN!
One wine , then to bed.
Night all
moon

Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 19:39:16

Happy to be confused with basnet or jingle in any of her guises, and several others. Nae worries. Not bothered. I know who I am even if no-one else does and that's what counts. I think.

Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 19:35:44

That's like me with book, nfk – I remember the story I'm reading but often haven,t clue who wrote it or what it's called! grin

NfkDumpling Sun 03-Feb-13 19:17:53

like this?. Thanks Bags - I just noticed the list next to the emoticons! How dim is that! Tunnel vision, advertisers nightmare, I can never remember the product, just the tune.

absent Sun 03-Feb-13 18:22:38

Stansgran I hope the cullen skink appears at some stage this evening and is delicious. It doesn't really matter if you confuse Bags and me – I am sure we can cope with that. While I admit that we often see things with the same perspective – but by no means invariably – I am slightly puzzled about the ab in our names. Same letters but a different order. hmm

Stansgran Sun 03-Feb-13 18:15:49

I have three email addresses one because I did a college course and we had to converse with the tutor by email, one my dead brother invited metro gmail(before he died) and yahoo. All of which I look at only occasionally. I have to spend a disproportionate chunk of my life sorting my DH,s email as he Is a technophobe of the first water and can crash a computer at 30 paces and attracts viruses like dolly mixture. I don't confuse bags and absent out of rudeness or assume they are the same person for any other reason than that they seem to have a similar mindset and both have ab in their names. If I were reading posts this would probably be too long and I would just scan. I am escaping DH making Cullen skink. His is evidently the proper version

gracesmum Sun 03-Feb-13 18:15:35

Sorr-ee didn't mean to demean anything anybody said and I agree entirely with the prnciple of the OP. It is indeed the "quite" which makes all ths difference - a bit like rather. Think of Terry- Thomas's "Raa-therr" which is positive and "an upper-class English "rather cool today, isn't it"
Oh what the heck. I'll just shut up. I think we all have a pretty good idea of how to be tactful/considerate/friendly and how to do the other thing.
Just wouldn't want to do the other thing to friends and don't like having it done to me.

Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 18:06:05

NFK, to underline, press the .?123 key, then press the #+=. Above that is the underline key which you need to type at the start and the end of something you want underlined.

Tell me if that,s clear and works and then we can do the others smile

Anne58 Sun 03-Feb-13 18:04:02

grin Of course we could substitute warm, cold, chilly, near or whatever you fancy, I think it's the "quite" that is the hinge on which this particular door swings. (Bloody hell, where did that come from?!)

Time for another glass of chablis I think!

Deedaa Sun 03-Feb-13 18:03:20

I've given up one or two forums -cookery ones seem particularly bad- because I kept finding a thread on a particular recipe or ingredient that I was interested in and within a couple of posts it would have degenerated into a chat between two friends, deciding when they would meet up and discussing their husbands' Man Flu. Riveting for them no doubt ,but mind numbing for the rest of us!

absent Sun 03-Feb-13 17:54:52

phoenix Of course you post was clear. There's just a typical pedants' deviation about use of the word nice – happens all the time. This isn't Just a Minute. Don't worry. smile

NfkDumpling Sun 03-Feb-13 17:53:11

Can I just ask in passing, in order to add appropriate expression, is there a way to use underline, bold or italic on an iPad?

j07 Sun 03-Feb-13 17:30:58

It's just it would save Geraldine from popping in and out. Welcome though she is, of course. smile

j07 Sun 03-Feb-13 17:29:41

Have they got rid of the "message deleted at poster's request" thing? confused

Movedalot Sun 03-Feb-13 17:24:08

I understood your point phoenix.

Anne58 Sun 03-Feb-13 17:16:05

OK, so "nice" wasn't the best example of what I meant, I was really just trying to show how inflection which is used in speech is often lost in this type of communication.

Stans if you tend to prefer to read mainly the shorter opening posts, then some (most?) of mine must send you running for the hills !! grin

Ariadne Sun 03-Feb-13 17:11:34

gracesmum I was taught that and implemented it in my own lessons too! grin

jeni Sun 03-Feb-13 17:10:48

Yes Jane!

gracesmum Sun 03-Feb-13 17:03:45

When I was at school we were absolutely forbidden on pain of something very nasty to use the word "nice" except in its meaning of fine or subtle e.g. a nice distinction. The other usage of "nice" i.e. pleasant , was banned as being to weak, woolly, vague, non-committal and anodyne and we had to find and use synonyms!!smile

janeainsworth Sun 03-Feb-13 16:59:58

Thank you Stansgran smile

dorsetpennt Sun 03-Feb-13 16:52:13

Actually I dont and wouldn't say 'its quite nice' I think that sounds a bit condescending and very English. If someone shows me an outfit say, that she is going to buy and I think she'll look like a total idiot in, I would diplomatically tell her so. Why do I have to say 'its quite nice' to something that I don't think is nice. One doesn't have to be nasty or rude about it - but honesty is better - to me it is telling the truth. It's like sitting in a resturant eating substandard food, the Head Waiter asks you if you were enjoying your food. Do you say 'its quite nice' or, and remember you are paying for this plate of garbage,' no I'm not enjoying it, its not good at all' Guess which one I say - and again not loudly and rudely, just honestly. No wonder we get poor service in this country if we uses phrases like'its quite nice'