Time to draw that line again and move on?
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Today we have lost a much loved member of GN she who has been here since day one. I am not going to name her but those of you who know her will notice her absence.
Over the past few months she has not posted very often, I just want you all to be aware that there are members leaving due to this constant tearing of each other apart.
Do we want GN to go the same way as Old Borum and the other sites that could not overcome the disagreements.
Time to draw that line again and move on?
J A bit of kindness and a steadying hand can go a long way, in my book.
I don't see it as being needy or pathetic or false.......just a moment of generosity. Nothing wrong with that.
I too am sad that lovely people (and it's more than one) are going because of a few. I "stuck my head above the parapet" yesterday because I was angered at the words used describing some people (please don't pick it up again) but regret it now, as it made me out to be the person I am not, and really didn't achieve anything except more nastiness; so I will shut up from now on which is probably the wrong thing to do in truth.
I did consider going, but like others, enjoy the virtual friendship from some people. Also, why should my pleasure be spoilt because of people I don't even know.
The only thing is that if discussions become taken over by this one word banter and emoticons between a few people, which I hate, I will move on.
I still ask that GNHQ have a red card system for people who keep saying unpleasant things, but I think this probably won't happen for reasons that have been suggested.
I apologise for being involved in yesterdays arguments and hope it didn't make others decide to go too.
I am on holiday but. Managed to get
Gransnet , and am really upset and sad that notso has left I have met her and she is a really loVely person, so if you are lurking, I shall miss you terribly.*notso*. X x
I thought it was another member not notso when this thread started as I haven't seen any posts by her for a while and she used to be prolific. Then I can think of yet another too, who doesn't seem to be around any more.
I am really sorry we are losing notso and hope she will reconsider.
I think it is pretty bad when Jeni writes such a long post, she is usually more of a one liner. We should heed her.
I think it is sad when anyone leaves, whether they have been in from the beginning or only for a couple of weeks.
I wish I could subscribe to the go off and leave a thread suggestion. I do quite often, sometimes because I'm bored by it. However, when someone has totally twisted what I have said to make it sound as if I am a different person, I just cannot let it lie. I do need to come back and set the record straight.
Just occassionally I have seen posters apologise and think we should encourage more of that. If a post has been written in haste (many of us are very busy) and ilater regrets, then an apology is in order and should be accepted. If a poster has written with good intent but later sees that her post could be read differently then an explanation would make all things right.
Some time ago I was vilified for suggesting we could all try to be nicer but I see that someone else has now suggested it. Please substitute whatever word you like but can we please try?
j07 have you considered that some of us turn to GN because we are 'in need' of support or at least somewhere where we can talk about our worries and concerns anonymously? I really believe some posters have come onto GN because they genuinely do not have anyone else they feel they can to turn to.
It is healthy that certain threads can cause interesting discussion and possibly heated arguments and anyone like me who doesn't want to read the batting to and fro of (what we see as) insensitive comments we can avoid those threads.
Do you not feel that your post calling a previous post 'pathetic' and then your last comment about 'neediness' were really appropriate on a thread specifically discussing the fact that some Gnetters are leaving due to what they feel are nasty comments?
I really don't believe you, or anyone else who posts insensitive comments, are being intentionally nasty but perhaps a little more thought is needed before hitting the 'post message' button?
QED
No! Not the posts about Notso leaving.
Oh! Leave it!
J07 What one earth are you talking about? neediness? That's not what I read into the posts about Notso. Regret at losing someone whom we had come to regard as a friend and support, yes; neediness, no.
So sorry to loose notso lets please get back to normality.
I just don't understand all the neediness that comes across on here.It sounds false tbh.
I am sad to learn that we are losing another friend.
I totally agree with everything you say Marelli 
Isn't that the sort of comment we are trying to avoid, or am I missing something?
steadying-hand of a post! Oh come on! That's pathetic. 
Marelli thank you - your post has hit the spot. I really do not want to leave, though have been disconcerted recently. However, the friendship and support more than counterbalances that, and I would miss it dreadfully. I have a full and busy life, of which GN is an integral part.
marelli thats exactly how I feel.
Marelli - I couldn't agree more. A wise, steadying-hand of a post. Thanks. 
I echo Nelliemoser , merlotgran, Jeni and many of you, I have just been reading all three pages of this thread and agree that I bury my head and do not enter the Frey when I see where some of the comments are going.
However I do enjoy checking in to GN, looking at the latest postings, and either add my bit or just walk away.
Surely we , as "older" people can cope with all this ? We must have all had many more dire things in our lives to deal with than a Forum.....
Cheers, friends!
This is not good at all. Notso gave me an enormous amount of help with something that I had to do for an interview, I'm really sorry to see that she has decided to leave.
I realise that it would be unrealistic for everyone to agree and get along all the time, but it is so sad when people feel they have to leave, rather than perhaps just have a break for a while.
What a lot of sense has been spoken during this thread. We're acknowledging that some people like to squabble and quarrel, (an argument or discussion is not the same), so let them get on with it.
As glass commented, there's more to life than Gransnet! However, so many really get so much from it, and might rely on it for a bit of company and comfort - which I do myself sometimes.
jeni remarked that it's changed her life - actually, I think it's changed mine as well, because I've gained so much from Gransnet, in all manner of ways.
So, let those who want to squabble just get on with it - a good old debate/discussion is healthy, but being unkind to each other isn't good. 
Hi mollie
Do you see the lilac strip above your post? and where it says 'private message'? If you click that, you can send messages and check your in box.
sorry - just noticed I can receive PMs - but have none so assume I am safe. 
lilygram - thank you - your summed up what I was trying to understand - have always found the discussions on here mostly friendly and amusing - which is what I joined for and I post rarely.
If I do not make my profile public - I assume I cannot receive any PMs is that how it works?
The ill-feeling seems to involve, at most, six or seven posters. It appears some of discussions are taking place through PMs. This makes posters who just want to share their thoughts and ideas and/or debate a variety of issues feel as though they are spending a weekend in the bosom of a dysfunctional family with private conversations in a hissing whisper going on all the time. 
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