Hasn't some of Gransnet got shrill?

I've followed the threads up to a point and I don't have specific knowledge and understanding of the actual politics of the time. At the time of the Miners' Strike I was working in a telecommunications factory, and saw the despair and worry on the faces of some of the women who also worked there who were wives and daughters of miners. They worked as much overtime as they possibly could and money and food was collected in the factory for these families. Families were broken and never mended. However, as my elderly sister-in-law (who is 85 and whose brothers, uncles and father worked in the pits here in Fife remarked the other day.....how many miners were given the chance and went ahead to buy their council houses?

I wondered about PMT too. Sorry to refer to you as children in the playground, but honestly! that is exactly what it sounds like when the "you started it" gets thrown around.

Returning to PMT I know there is some production of hormones after the menopause, and I think it could be cyclic. Galen will tell us.

I think bringing up this subject is probably a good thing and might make a few people question before posting. I just wish you had kept it less specific and selective absent because then it wouldn't have upset anyone which is, I hope, what it was intended to avoid.

I haven't been online since about midday yesterday so am probably about to find out a lot more of what has been happening.

Whatever we might feel about the things that have been said I do think we should be able to voice our feelings without foul language. Now that really is offensive.

Thirty years ago, Nellie!

You kidding we're past that stage!!! #longforgottenthankgawd

One could mischievously speculate that the cyclical nature of these spats Elegran mentions might be down to PMT, but I would not want to bring the wrath of GN down on my head.

Anyway lots of us are past that stage! #runforcover.

Joke everyone! Let's lighten up here!

Hear hear!!!

I'm fed up with this tiresomely reiterated image of grans "playing nicely together" and consider it insulting to intelligent mature women.

I wrote a post last night, looked at it, decided I really did not want to step between the contestants at that time of night and get sideswipes for my pains, and deleted it. If anyone else joins in this infighting and takes sides, or tries to make the participants see reason, they get told by one or other (or both, or by the bystanders) to MYOB.

I wish I had a diary recording the intervals between spats. It seems to be cyclic. For a while afterwards everything dies down and we all play nicely together, then one of gods on Mt Olympus decides it is too quiet and stirs up discord.

Harrigran I agree with you with regard to the language used so unnecessary.

All the media are particularly febrile at the moment so I suppose it is not surprising that Gransnet is too. What I do dislike is the veiled implication that of course you are entitled to your own opinion but your opinion is fallacious and you shouldn't be expressing it here. That has never been how Gransnet works and nor should it be.

Personally, I have found gn hugely supportive over this last rather trying period of my life. I have lots of support in real life but gn is a special extra. Luckily, I haven't had time to read many other threads.

Thank YOU Goose it is actually kids not grans but the way things have been going lately this sprung to my mind and I thought it was equally appropriate to us grans!

thanks gillybob

In the words of the punk band Sham 69 ( 1978)

For once in my life I've got something to say
I wanna say it now for now is today
A love has been given to grab and enjoy
So lets all grab and let's enjoy

If the grans are united then we'll never be divided
If the grans are united then we'll never be divided

Just take a look around you what do you see
Grans with feelings like you and me
Understand her she'll understand you
For you are her and she is you

Repeat chorus

I don't want to be rejected
I don't want to be denied
Then it's not my misfortune
That i've opened up your eyes

Repeat chorus

Freedom is given
Speak how you feel
I have no freedom
How do you feel
They can lie to my face
But not to my heart
If we all stand together
It will just be the start

Repeat chorus

I have found some of the language today most unladylike.

I guess I did sound too negative.Ive never been one to argue which bugged my ex- husband who loved it. Actually I admire someone who stands by their feelings and can say sod it! I never heard bad words or new what they were till high school. Talk about being sheltered and not street smart!Glad we raise our kids in the real world today!

Someone had to say it. Tempers have been raised, exchanges have been heated and language has been less than temperate. Most of us do have strong views but we need to be able to respect each others' right to hold opinions and not shoot the opposition down in flames. Was this Mrs T's legacy? I don't think so. I value the friendship, warmth and support I have found on GN in the past, I lament the abuse and hostility.

envious its just a spat dont worry it will disappear and we will just carry on as if it never happened.

GN is a godsend for me I dont feel as if I am missing anything it just enriches what I already have, I have made some very good friends on Gn people I would not have come into contact with in the 'real' world.

Stick with us, you would be a miss.

Hear, hear!

I can't believe some of the posts which have appeared recently. Vitriolic, nasty, bitter exchanges from so called educated women. Isn't there enough hatred in the world without adding to it? It just seems to take a couple of agitators to cause chaos. What has happened to GN? I'm all for vigorous debate but this has gone beyond acceptable.

I personally see it as a nice extension of my life, and not that there is something missing.

But it can take up alot of time if not at work or busy with other things, it can also be a blessing if not working or if you have loads of time on your hands.

I think sometimes things go a bit wrong but on the whole Gransnet is a good place to be, or to go and come back to

Tomorrow is another day and hopefully will be a better one and we can just forget everything and be pleased with a brand new day

words are powerful.Dont ever miss a chance to shut up.I myself have decided to be careful,step back and look at why I'm on this site,spend so much time reading these threads and decide whether it's too much time. maybe something is missing in my life I can do something about.

Guys please lets calm down.

We have enough stress in our "real world" and gransnet should be a bit of escapism for all of us.

No one wants to be arguing, I'm sure of that, it will just make us feel miserable.

Can we rise above it, we will feel better for it

janeainsworth Indeed that is not how things usually work and things are better without that level of angry language whether or not provoked. However, separate from that, I think there is an undercurrent of ill feeling that I have not previously noted and I find it worrying (?) distressing (?) wrong footing (?) – not quite sure what I find it apart from not liking it.