Hasn't some of Gransnet got shrill?

Absent As you rightly said its "That Womans fault." #ducksforcover.

To be fair I have seen much worse spats on here. As has been said before to some its water off a ducks back, others take it very much as an insult. I doubt if that can be changed.
#peaceforgetthatcher.

There are, however, many threads where we are empathic and supportive of other members who are in various kinds of distress. There are spats from time to time - maybe in our off-line lives we don't encounter many people who have opinions diametrically opposed to ours and Gransnet gives us access to ways of thinking we don't relate to easily. There are many strong women with strong opinions and forceful ways of expressing them but there should be no reason why they can't tolerate and have regard for the opinions of others. A bit of humour doesn't go amiss either.

I really hope not, because when any of us have problems. We all rally round and help.
It would be such a shame if all the good that has been wrought disappeared down the proverbial Swanee.
I just hope that when the late lady baroness is buried all this ill will is buried with her!

Amazing, three similar posts within seconds!

Peace all

It would take more that a spat about that woman to split us all up.

Than not that!

Oh and you're so bloody holy aren't you absent?!

I notice you 've dragged up one of my comments. I explained what I meant by that at the time.

You are just trouble making with this thread.

Some people come across as natural bullies. No names!

But I have got a memory absent.

Well I'm about to be banned - see MT thread but I've had a bloody nuff

Oh, would you really care if you were banned bluebell? It's a load of time wasting cobblers anyway.

j08 I have too. You posted frequently and at great length about David Walliams swimming the Thames and I thought your extreme excitement a little OTT. I apologised then and since – I don't know how many times – about upsetting you. Do you really have to bring that one up again? I should have thought in the general scheme of things it was pretty small potatoes.

I didn't "drag up" your comment; I merely remarked on it as an example of the direction in which Gransnet seems to have been moving recently. I could easily have picked half a dozen others.

Bloody holy?

Absent I'm not sure which thread(s) you are specifically referring to - I've only been on GN sporadically this week - but I have just read the MT thread, and 'shrill' isn't the word I would use.
Telling other posters to FO and calling them sh*t is not acceptable in any circumstances and I hope the moderators will take appropriate action.

janeainsworth Indeed that is not how things usually work and things are better without that level of angry language whether or not provoked. However, separate from that, I think there is an undercurrent of ill feeling that I have not previously noted and I find it worrying (?) distressing (?) wrong footing (?) – not quite sure what I find it apart from not liking it.

Guys please lets calm down.

We have enough stress in our "real world" and gransnet should be a bit of escapism for all of us.

No one wants to be arguing, I'm sure of that, it will just make us feel miserable.

Can we rise above it, we will feel better for it

words are powerful.Dont ever miss a chance to shut up.I myself have decided to be careful,step back and look at why I'm on this site,spend so much time reading these threads and decide whether it's too much time. maybe something is missing in my life I can do something about.

I personally see it as a nice extension of my life, and not that there is something missing.

But it can take up alot of time if not at work or busy with other things, it can also be a blessing if not working or if you have loads of time on your hands.

I think sometimes things go a bit wrong but on the whole Gransnet is a good place to be, or to go and come back to

Tomorrow is another day and hopefully will be a better one and we can just forget everything and be pleased with a brand new day

I can't believe some of the posts which have appeared recently. Vitriolic, nasty, bitter exchanges from so called educated women. Isn't there enough hatred in the world without adding to it? It just seems to take a couple of agitators to cause chaos. What has happened to GN? I'm all for vigorous debate but this has gone beyond acceptable.

Hear, hear!

envious its just a spat dont worry it will disappear and we will just carry on as if it never happened.

GN is a godsend for me I dont feel as if I am missing anything it just enriches what I already have, I have made some very good friends on Gn people I would not have come into contact with in the 'real' world.

Stick with us, you would be a miss.

Someone had to say it. Tempers have been raised, exchanges have been heated and language has been less than temperate. Most of us do have strong views but we need to be able to respect each others' right to hold opinions and not shoot the opposition down in flames. Was this Mrs T's legacy? I don't think so. I value the friendship, warmth and support I have found on GN in the past, I lament the abuse and hostility.

I guess I did sound too negative.Ive never been one to argue which bugged my ex- husband who loved it. Actually I admire someone who stands by their feelings and can say sod it! I never heard bad words or new what they were till high school. Talk about being sheltered and not street smart!Glad we raise our kids in the real world today!

I have found some of the language today most unladylike.

In the words of the punk band Sham 69 ( 1978)

For once in my life I've got something to say
I wanna say it now for now is today
A love has been given to grab and enjoy
So lets all grab and let's enjoy

If the grans are united then we'll never be divided
If the grans are united then we'll never be divided

Just take a look around you what do you see
Grans with feelings like you and me
Understand her she'll understand you
For you are her and she is you

Repeat chorus

I don't want to be rejected
I don't want to be denied
Then it's not my misfortune
That i've opened up your eyes

Repeat chorus

Freedom is given
Speak how you feel
I have no freedom
How do you feel
They can lie to my face
But not to my heart
If we all stand together
It will just be the start

Repeat chorus

thanks gillybob